User talk:BIanca617
Nationalliga (Swiss baseball) moved to draftspace
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Hello John. Feel? Its the National League of a country? I put some sources in for you. BIanca617 (talk) 21:47, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Nationalliga (Swiss baseball) (September 4)
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- Hmmm. Its been done then 10000 other Articles I saw here. For example this. Switzerland national baseball team. It hast 2 sources and it is highly notable. Its the National League of a country?
Seams quite strange to me. Discrimination? BIanca617 (talk) 22:27, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi. Please stop making edits like this and this. There's no need to link to common place names or add a stub category in that way. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:35, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
Hello. In nearly all other articles - the country of the person is a link. BIanca617 (talk) 12:08, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
- If you see overlinking, it probably is the result of inexperienced editors. I left you guidance in this edit summary, with a quote. Please take the opportunity to learn correctly at this early stage.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 22:33, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
List of motorcycle records moved to draftspace
[edit]An article you recently created, List of motorcycle records, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Captain Calm (talk) 11:42, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
It was just 5 Min old and in process. Acording WP rules you should not do this in the first hour. BIanca617 (talk) 11:47, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
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Marking changes as 'minor'
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Hi BIanca617! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor at Michel V. Tell that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia – it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information.
Please understand at this early stage that anything which changes the way the prose is read and understood is not a minor edit. Thank you.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 23:32, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Yes thats right. I counldnt log in. Thats why i used the 617 at the end so you see. It would be very nice if you cound not change all the time the article I wrote. Against the sources, without debate, without anything. But with SHOUTING LETTERS. There are 10 great sources saying there is a record incluce the biggest Newspaper of Switzerland and the biggest Magazin of the country of Liechtenstein. We need just one and here are 10 sources! This is against Wikipedia rules, against WP BIO and also could be in conflict with national law. Ok. To be nice i try to explain you. Seams you think the GuinessBook is something like the United Nations of Records. :) Ok. Sadly many people think this because they know the book since Kindergarden but it is not. Its just the book of a beer company. A Book to make money. And many people not eaven want to work with an alcohol company. Many of the people and companies who go for records dont work with them. GB dont look for records. They dont collect them by research. People have to become Customers and have to pay money for getting in there! Just quick n dirty just for you
https://www.quora.com/How-does-Guiness-World-Records-make-money
Some years ago i do a reasearch about. you find everything on the GB website. But you have to take 30 Min. They hide it :) Not easy to find the real conditions. You have nice pics in your account and seams you are doing good motorsport work here. Thanks for that. But you should become a bit more gentle. Deleting and shouting is not the wiki way. And you maybe also know there are 1000 records done without cooperation with GB. I never saw any Motorsport event who needed GB for the records. If you are interessted in do some research. Go for it. Find out what is in GB and whats not. And how to get in there.
To get in the GuinessBook you have to do 3 things 1 become customer 2 pay money 3 and send them the writen document of just 2 witnesses. Thats it! Thats the way to get in this great book. Everybody who pay gets in. Everybody who dont pay them dont get in. And if you dont pay you dont get in. But a proven record is a proven record with or without this book. At this record was 6 offcial witnesses from 3 diffrent countries and the Newspaper of Liechtenstein. Every court accept this! Much more official then a normal GB record. Also it has much more great sourced then a normal wiki article about a record. They have just 1-2 sources. Here we got 10 and the biggest 2 Newspapers of 2 countries. So it would be very nice if you could stop changeing this article all the time against all rules. And please try to be a bit more gentle and a bit less agressiv. Its just a small sports article. A well sourced sports article! No reason for to be rude at all. Also it is a good thing for the future of motorsport, motorccyles and the climate change. Thank you BIanca617 (talk) 15:48, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
- You have to learn what the Wikipedia way is - if not from me, someone else. WP:OLINK, WP:CITEKILL is not shouting - it is the Wikipedia way. You need to be slow and patient. Do not expect to have your own way as a beginner. If you are using MiaLara617 log in - please stop.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 13:35, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Regarding Guinness, a new world record was observed by the man from Guinness, who was interviewed on camera - BBC terrestrial (aerial) television, free to watch, not youtube. Your sources that I looked at (and used Google Chrome web-browser translate extension) are all based on the same press-release, many using the same image, just so easy for lazy writers to accept and copy.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 14:50, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- watch this. biggest newspaper of switzerland
- biggest newspaper of lichtenstein
http://archive.org/details/2020032409h5559
- biggest magazin of lichtenstein
https://www.lie-zeit.li/2020/06/zu-besuch-beim-weltmeister-in-der-villa-turm/
- big german bike magazin
https://www.bikeundbusiness.de/e-bike-weltrekord-vier-laender-und-1723-kilometer-a-915844/
- biggest bike magazin of austria
5 completly diffrent highly notable sources. from 4 diffrent countries. completly. just one of them is more good then an alcohl company which earns money with it. check it and i hope you becomeing a bit more friendly after it. i saw there was many people in the past who say somehting like this to you. something like "be a bit more friendly". absolutly no reason to be rude. seams we have the same hobby, i dont do something bad to you as far as i know and you go wild without big reason (190%) :). you wrote pov in the article at your second edit which was cleary vandalize. very rude stuff without any source. i didnt say something and didnt report it because i thought you maybe had a bad day. just ask. now you see this are great sources. much better then in most other article. and sure nothing to go wild :) more or less every single sentence is with 2 good indipendent sources in this article. where else you get this? so i hope we can end this at that point and become friends. like people who work together and have the same hobby sould do. and like wp expected it. would be nice. and i am also sure you have something better to do with your time then going wild against a nice futuristic motorsport record. its not healthy to get wild, not nice and sure not the person you want to be. so lets agree to had a bad start and we are doing better in future. ok? regards. BIanca617 (talk) 17:15, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- When you come to en Wiki as a new user with very few edits and try to establish a new article - this is unusual. When two other new users add to this article - this is unusual. One of these has tried to establish the same article at .it wikipedia.
On en Wiki, new users submit at Wikipedia:Articles for creation where others help - this is not mainspace. You made a change to Isle of Man TT - this is on my watchlist. I did not change what you wrote, or attack you. I cleaned up the Michel article. I am not wild.
As you are a new user, I will always look at other changes to other articles from the same person. I have never attacked you. I have commented on the sources being all the same, and the evidence or world record being insufficient. Only what he sent out in a press release. It is not a world record. It is not motorsport. For this reason I will not take any more time. The same comment is here on .it Wiki
"In secondo luogo, qui siamo tutti volontari perciò non sono tenuto a lavorare su voci per conto di altre utenze, ma puoi (come ti ho già suggerito) rivolgerti allo Sportello Informazioni dove potrai contare sul supporto di utenze competenti in materia :) --Dave93b"
= "Secondly, here we are all volunteers so I am not required to work on items on behalf of other users, but you can (as I have already suggested) contact the Information Desk where you can count on the support of competent users in the matter :) --Dave93b"; he will not do it.En Wiki is different from .it, .de - please try to accept that, as a new user and with a new article, you have to follow the same as with other people and articles. No special treatment. Nothing more, nothing less. You do not understand, you do not like, so you shout attack; and now you are going to the Talk page of others claiming hate, sexism and racism. I appreciate you are writing in a different language and it is not easy. It will be for others to decide now, who are senior ranking within en Wiki. You should not be showing {{AWB topicon}} at your User page as you have too few edits and have not made an application for permission to use this. What ever I write, you will shout attack 8¬( .--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 01:53, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- You bring your 10 year old superbudy in here and say he is not to manipulate against
me Like i said. Dennis was write "WE". Dennis is a old friend of user Rocknrollmancer. Since nearly 10 years and try together to manipulate against me! HARD - VERY HARD against all rules!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rocknrollmancer#Welcome!
--BIanca617 (talk) 06:37, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Multiple accounts
[edit]On 20 September 2020 you began editing with the BIanca617 account. On 26 September you made two edits as TheorieMankk. This would have been acceptable if you decided to permanently switch from the first account to the second, as explained at Clean start, but then on October 2 you returned to using BIanca617. We know this because here you referred back to comments you made at User talk:Rocknrollmancer, in which you accused them of personal attacks, even though BIanca617 has never posted at that page. Worse, you're using two accounts to advocate for the same point of view on the same subject, creating the appearance of multiple people when there is only one. This is all explained at Sockpuppetry.
Please pick one and only one user account and do not use any others. If you wish to change your user name or start using a new account, you must do so according to the rules at Changing username, Clean start and Sockpuppetry. You can be blocked from editing for abusing multiple accounts. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 20:45, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- Seams you try everything you can do throw dirt to me?
In a very unnice way and against all wikipedia rules. You are not nice, you are not gentle, you dont stay at topic, you try all the time finding new ways to attack me and so on. You dont try to find solutions you allways come with new stuff and try new attacks! And you try to make the rules new. Its allowed to have as many accounts you want according the rules. Its not allowed to do diskussion "with yourself" and try to get signifikant great advantage. I did not.. And who is "we"? You and your Friend Rocknrollmancer which seams to try to fight me personal as good as they can? Why? You dont like female user? You dont like female motorsport fans? You dont like the the record guy? Is it cause he is jew? Whats your problem? You both show to have a hugh personal interesst in me or the article? Can you plese follow the rules. The rules say everthing is fine, i didnt do something bad, article is good, notable and super well sourced. Every single sentence got 1-2 good sources. And Wikipedia Rules say be nice, objectiv, neutral! I cant see much of this. The only stuff I see you 2 are going against many rules all the time. And not just once you seam to be highly motivated to come back 10-20 times and try all the time other new questionable stuff .One point is over you just think about a new. And you both never showed just a minimum of good belive or a will to find nice solutions for something --BIanca617 (talk) 21:27, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- Blanca, Dennis Bratland's message was entirely on point, and you casting aspersions regarding his motives is not acceptable in a collaborative environment. You cannot use multiple accounts to edit the same topics unless you explicitly connect the accounts as instructed at WP:ALTACCN. -- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:49, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
I did not edit this article with an other account. Just once cause i cant log in. And this was (1) no important thing. Just added some ref (2) I used a name with the same Number at the end 617 so its clear its the same. And so it has (1) no effect at all and is (2) not forbidden or important. As far as I read the rules it is just the problem when I do 5 accounts to manipulate a debate or something like that. Like friends sometimes do ;) I see a much bigger problem in a group of friends which try to attack me all the time without good reason. They not try once they try all the time with new strange stuff and also in team?? I didnt do something. The only thing I did is added some articles about Records. And this a a super well sourced one. Every single Sentense got 1-2 ref. What can be more neutral? And other Artiicles look like this and I get attackt all the time Shridhar_Chillal Piyush Goel Peter_Glazebrook :o --BIanca617 (talk) 22:10, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- You misunderstand the policy regarding multiple accounts. You created and used a second account to comment in a topic area and about another editor you previously had a dispute with without declaring the connection between the accounts. As an administrator and checkuser, I'm telling you that that is not allowed regardless of your personal interpretation of Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry. Please ensure you stick to your main account, or that you clearly link alternative accounts if you intend to use them to edit in the same topic area.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:30, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- (EC x2, thanks Ponyo) Bianca, I am trying to help you, but I will not do it for you (as suggested in this diff). Another suspicious new account is LindaAfrika, particularly this edit changing the smiley and adding WP:ATD; WP:BITE; WP:CENSOR; WP:NOTPAPER; WP:PRESERVE, the same as here. There is another new account where I am being followed, clearly, the choice of random articles visited is significant.
I have been very nice
by not going to CU.I am not a friend of Dennis Bratland - we just watch and edit similar articles. No team. If you look at Talk:Andy Abrahams you will see I am not pleased with the redirect that occured with no discussion and I offered a list of similar (weak) Bio articles at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andy Abrahams. This is one place where I am being followed by new user OUmschlag, with the redirect to Mayor of Mansfield.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 22:41, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- (EC x2, thanks Ponyo) Bianca, I am trying to help you, but I will not do it for you (as suggested in this diff). Another suspicious new account is LindaAfrika, particularly this edit changing the smiley and adding WP:ATD; WP:BITE; WP:CENSOR; WP:NOTPAPER; WP:PRESERVE, the same as here. There is another new account where I am being followed, clearly, the choice of random articles visited is significant.
I dont know this Oschlag User you talking. As far I see in his user page he is very far away from me. Also I never saw him here? So why is he important. Also I dont know who LindaAfrica is?? Also never seen makeing edits here. Sounds a bit like conspiracy theories. I dont know you? I did nothing too you. Why i know allready 4-5 theories from you?? I dont see someone supporting me here? But i see 2-3 people which talk about "we" and attack me without good reason very hard and very often. Because of a super sourced article. Much better then most other and without there is much more posible. While other articles look like this
You attack me all the time and try to create one big thing after next. First u vandalize without sources and against WP:Bio. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michel_von_Tell&diff=980267392&oldid=979733489 Then when you saw this dosent work you say I am the huge manipulator eaven if I am allways alone here in the debate against you. Also there is absolutly no reason to manipulate something. Like I said. Super sourced stuff. No room for any debates. I never said one bad word to you and never manipulate something here. You trying to help me? Realy ??? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michel_von_Tell&diff=980267392&oldid=979733489 You attackt me often, very hard and without any reason. Here. On 5th October (some hours ago more or less) I talked to you first time about this article. Because you attacked me once again. I dont know. 3,4rd time or whatever. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BIanca617#Marking_changes_as_'minor' Anyway I tryed to be nice, explain you your stuff and your created problems like my unimported 617 edit you tryed to use against me. Anyway. I was very very nice. Explained, try to be understanding, tryed so solve problems, tryed the best I can and ended with. Lets start from beginning and become friends. As it should be in WP and special if we both like motorsport. You not eaven answered me and attacked me with a new topic. I just saw a lot attacks. And no small attacks. Very huge and unfair once. And against many wp rules attacks. And I never did something bad in return. Not a single word. I tried to fix it and become friend. And you ignored and tryed next thing. And come again and again to me. To 5 diffrent topics. Like damage me and this article is the center of your life?? This is help???? But ok. Its easy to become friends. My offer still stands. I never did something bad to someone here. If you want to end this. Your welcome. But I dont realy think you realy will because also this time you came with your next theories. About this "Omschlag" and "Linda" I never heared of and I cant see them here. Only thing I see is 1-2 more people came and attacking me in same way and talk about "we see this and that". Sounds to me like throwing with 1000 things and hope something works. But I can be wrong. If you want to become friends. Cool! Prove it. Stop attacking me all the time. I never strart attacking you or someone else here as far as I know so I cant stop something. My first and my last words in this tompic was. Lets become friends? What more can I do? I did no edits without source. Nearly every single sentence I did was with a good source, I never damaged something and I never said a bad word and was always kind, good willing, try to de-escalate an try to find good solutions and be very open and not resentful. Can you say this about yourself? So again. If you realy want. I offer you friendship again even if I think its more up to you to say sorry to me. Instead of makeing huge theories about nothing like you did every time I saw you I give you the hand. Like I did EVERY SINGLE time till now after your attacks. So you will take it this time and we end this Kindergarden and look together for some people who do real damage? --BIanca617 (talk) 23:32, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, no. I thought this could be simply a newcomer's mistake and only posted a warning, but Rocknrollmancer has brought to light at least two more socks, and the pattern of intentinal abuse of multiple accounts is obvious. I've opened a case at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BIanca617.
BIanca617, please stop wasting everyone's time. The jig is up. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 01:32, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
What? What light? He just say something about some Linda and som Omschlag User. I dont know them. And what evil things they did? And what I got to do with it? They are not even here? You not eaven showed what bad things they did. You are welcome to check if this OUmschlag User is me. Its not. But it also makes no sence. I never saw him and also not makeing relevat edits here in some of my articles. Hear the name the first time and with a short view in his history I can not see someting great. Are you 2 guys ALex Jones guys? International conspiracy?? What? I dont am this user and I also cant see he did something amazing super bad? Same to this ohter LindaAfrica. Like he says. Suspicious. Again. I tryed to be nice and offer friendship and like all the time you dont take it. You both who talk about "WE" come with theories. Like i said. I see you both talking about WE here and play the ball left and right and try escalating. I dont see no Lindas and an OUmschlags here supporting me. I just see more and more theories. Even nothing bad even happend here. --BIanca617 (talk) 02:19, 9 October 2020 (UTC) Like i said. Dennis was write "WE". Dennis is a old friend of user Rocknrollmancer. Since nearly 10 years and try together to manipulate against me! HARD - VERY HARD against all rules!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rocknrollmancer#Welcome! --BIanca617 (talk) 06:35, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Busted
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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. TomStar81 (Talk) 02:49, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Cool. Can I join? This is the only thing I want beeing treated fair. And talk to some people who are reakly neutral without attacking me all the time in allways diffrent ways :( --BIanca617 (talk) 02:53, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
October 2020
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You are suspected of sock puppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Wikipedia accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to investigations, then, if you wish to do so, respond to the evidence at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BIanca617. Thank you. Heart (talk) 02:54, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Where??? I did edits witch are bad behaior with bad effect? :0 Come on! You see I didnt do something bad! If I would there would be many accounts of me in the talk to reckefeller or what the user is named. Like I allready sayed to the one guy. Sometimes I cant log in or the auto login dosent work. Then I use a new one just not to post my IP for security. Like Wiki says "take care your IP will be shown". And like Wiki says. Its no problem if you dont do in very bad behaviour. For example voteing for something with 5 diffrent accounts. I never did stuff like that! Just absolut unimportant Stuff? Why you dont see this??? --BIanca617 (talk) 03:02, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Blocked for sockpuppetry
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{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. ST47 (talk) 09:15, 9 October 2020 (UTC)Your draft article, Draft:Nationalliga (Swiss baseball)
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Nomination of Michel von Tell for deletion
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