User talk:Avieso

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Hello, Avieso, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like Wikipedia and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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October 2010

Welcome to Wikipedia! Although one of the core policies of Wikipedia is that articles should always be written from a neutral point of view, we would like to remind you not to undo other people's edits, without explaining why in an edit summary. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Thank you. BilCat (talk) 18:03, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: I got a problem with my contributions

No I am not an admin, but I have been around Wikipedia for a while, so perhaps I can help you anyway. What is your situation? - Ahunt (talk) 19:57, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I think everything is OK now. Anyway, I had a problem with two users who deleted a contribution I did to an article despite I provided two different sources. The contribution was this one:

The Eurofighter official website published at the beginning of 2010 that a two-ship formation of Spanish Eurofighters were able to shot down 7 out of an eight-ship formation of American F-15s during a NATO dogfight simulation in the Canary Islands. According to a Spanish Air Force Commander the Spanish pilots were using the Eurofighter to full capacity during that exercices.[138][139]

The source [138] is the official web site of the Eurofighter, as it is stated in my contribution. The source [139] is the worldtribune.com, a newspaper wich has no relationship with the manufacturer. I tried to discuss this with them but then one of them deleted my contribution saying that it was "company propaganda" and told me that I could be blamed because of a war of editions. I tryied to discuss it in their user pages, but many of my comments were deleted, so finally I put my contribution again in the article and started a topic in the discussion page, but none of them has answered so far, I was quite angry, so this is why I asked for help.

Do you think this is the kind of thing an administrator can solve? What can i do if I face again a similar situation? I always try to make me sure that my contributions are reliable and verificable, this had never happened to me so far. Thanks and regards.Avieso (talk) 20:19, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I saw that debate. No an admin is just going to tell you the same thing I will: if you add something that is removed then the the next step is to discuss on the talk page to gain consensus to include it as per WP:BRD. If most other editors commenting don't think it belongs in the article then don't edit war to get it included as that will get you blocked, instead accept the consensus and move on to work on another article. All content in articles is there by consensus, so that is the key: convincing others interested in the article that is is worth having the text in the article. - Ahunt (talk) 20:38, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of previously published material to our articles as you apparently did to Eurofighter Typhoon. Please cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 20:43, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Eurofighter Typhoon. Users who edit disruptively or refuse to collaborate with others may be blocked if they continue. In particular the three-revert rule states that making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the talk page to discuss controversial changes. Work towards wording and content that gains consensus among editors. If unsuccessful then do not edit war even if you believe you are right. Post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 20:45, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

LOL What original research???? I didn´t do original research at any moment. Do you need an excuse to delete my contribution? this is unbeliable, I will comment this in the Spanish wiki...I know you don´t give a s**t but all this situation is pretty funny. I have said I hand over. Avieso (talk) 21:01, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Changing disabled to shot down, counter to what the sources said was the only syntheses/original research I saw. In any event I think this is done. How about we all move on.. -fnlayson (talk) 16:58, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]