User talk:Atabata

Atabata, please note that WP:SOCK policy forbids editing the same article via multiple accounts. Since you already edited the article Treaty of Nöteborg as User:Jaakko Sivonen it constituets an abusive uasage of sockpuppets and may get you block.

Although Wikipedia rules outline some situtation there multiple accounts are permitted still the best and easiest way to conform to the WP:SOCK policy is to edit from one account. Alex Bakharev 08:51, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alex, I don't think it's Jaakko, but there is little doubt that this is one seasoned troll. He immediately took to stalking me. Each of his edits I have seen so far disrupts one or another of our guidelines. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 10:46, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, you immediately took to stalking me. Your actions and words are full of harassments and threats. Stop it. Atabata

I have nothing to do with User:Jaakko Sivonen. Atabata

Haistan ilmassa ryssien valheet. Bakharev ei ottanut huomioon, että kaikki suomalaiset kannattavat suomalaisten nimien mainitsemista artikkeleissa, jotka koskevat Suomea ja/tai suomalaisia. --Jaakko Sivonen 20:22, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict

Alex, if you suspect someone is a sock-puppet the proper course is to make a request for check-user... not put a sock tag on their user page. That's often considered vandalism or harassment. Even if you turn out to be right, there is no benefit to pursuing a hostile course... and obviously considerable downside if you turn out to be wrong.

Ghirla, calling someone a troll for disagreeing with you on minor trivialities of style is a good example of incivility. Doing so to a new user is a classic WP:BITE scenario. If you don't believe the person is really a new user, well that's a failure to assume good faith and you should try being a little less hostile until there is some 'reason' more profound than, 'he moved my 'unreferenced' template to the top of the page!' Which, actually... is the more usual place for that sort of cleanup tag.

Atabata, accusing people of stalking you after they make edits to three or four of the same pages you have isn't really justified/civil/assuming good faith either. Especially when they were already involved in editing several of those pages.

Can't we all just get along? Or... like, pretend to try to? --CBD 12:47, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It appeared as if Ghirla was stalking me. Now that I'm calmer I see that I might have overreacted. I can play nice, but I don't want people calling me names and threatening me. Atabata 00:52, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Treaty of Nöteborg

You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule on Treaty of Nöteborg. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from editing. Khoi khoi 01:16, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome

Atabata, I'm sorry you've had such a rough start at Wikipedia.

I find that it's a good idea to step back from an article for a while if the other editors are getting to me. Find something else to do, then come back later.

If people are consistently rude or unfair, they eventually get caught. Your responsibility (and mine) is never to be rude or unfair, and to give everyone respect.

It's amazing how well this works. For example, a few people are vandalizing Wikipedia all the time, and yet it never "sticks" for long.

Hope you like it here. -- Rob C (Alarob) 02:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]