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Self welcome

Hello, AsteriskStarSplat, and Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{Help me}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking if shown; this will automatically produce your username and the date. Also, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field with your edits. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! AsteriskStarSplat (talk) 19:09, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
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How to meet WP:VALIDALT

I have created this account for use when I am at work, and potentially any other location where I do not consider the connection secure/protected.

  1. Since I'm trying to keep my editing at work separate from at home, how do I properly meet WP:VALIDALT?
  2. Due to recent networking changes at work, what had been just one outward-facing IP address is now several, and I finally gave in to the suggestion to create an account for work. I have been editing from work IP(s) for several years, so am I required to (&/or should I) declare what those are/were?
  3. Do I have to declare what my user account for use at home is? I don't use that very often, most recently to add photos, and I do not intent to cross-post to the same discussions on talk pages, etc... but I'd prefer to keep that account more anonymous that this one, if possible.

Thanks. -- AsteriskStarSplat (talk) 19:47, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

The easiest way of complying with WP:VALIDALT would be to connect the accounts by placing links to each other on their respective user pages. If you don't want to do so for privacy reasons, you should keep edits from home and from work strictly separate (ie you should not even edit the same articles from both accounts). If you think your editing pattern will allow others to connect the accounts, you should do so pre-emptively.
There is no need to declare the IPs you previously used; however, if you're interested in privacy you should make sure not to edit any more while not logged in.
Finally, if you edit Wikipedia as part of your work, you should take a look at the recent changes to the terms of use regarding disclosure of paid editing. Huon (talk) 20:23, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the advice. No, I'm not being paid to edit, just not being prohibited from editing at work. Unfortunatly the company I work for has man-in-the-middle proxy servers that converts all secure traffic to unsecure, which can potentially capture my login information. —***→ 20:36, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

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--Jgstokes (talk) 19:50, 5 August 2014 (UTC)


Talkback

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--Jgstokes (talk) 05:59, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Official Auxiliary Titles

As an uninvolved editor familiar with the Latter Day Saint topic, could you please talk a look at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Latter_Day_Saint_movement#Official_Auxiliary_Titles.--- ARTEST4ECHO (talk) 15:17, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

appearance of cites

Oddly my browser doesn't seem to render a difference before and after [1]. Can you elaborated how they appeared wrong? I know the contents of the cites were not linewrapped but I wasn't aware there was an appearance problem. I use the templates from Wikipedia:Citation templates. --Smkolins (talk) 00:09, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

The appearance of the cite in question was not an issue in the final page rendering; instead it was with how it looks when editing and when looking at difs. It was a really minor thing, and not really a big deal, but when you use inline cites it usually works better if you keep the info all inline with the text, without extraneous line returns. —Asterisk*Splat→ 13:59, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Ah - I see. Well it is a natural outflow from copying the templates. Linefeeds were not generally added and I think rather the opposite - that if it is all run together in a line then it is harder to see what is where in the citation. The way I do it the lines are individually readable and if all in line you have skim along the line which can be quite long. --Smkolins (talk) 22:38, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Reference Errors on 23 September

Hello, I'm ReferenceBot. I have automatically detected that an edit performed by you may have introduced errors in referencing. It is as follows:

Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. Thanks, ReferenceBot (talk) 00:26, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Someone else already fixed it; see this dif. —Asterisk*Splat→ 15:05, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Mormon ref problems

Hello. There are problems with some of your recent edits to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

This edit added the article to the error tracking category Category:Pages with broken reference names.

Your next edit removed the article from that category and added it to Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting.

Finally, your last edit added the article to Category:Pages with broken reference names once again.

I have been studying this and playing with it for a couple of hours and can't figure out what's wrong. At least part of the difficulty is apparently caused by that {{hidden}} template, which is the only reason I can see why there are no error messages related to refs.

I'll leave this to you. If you can't see these tracking categories at the bottom of the page, you need to check "Show hidden categories" in the Appearance tab of your Preferences.

Good luck. ‑‑Mandruss (talk) 15:46, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for identifying the issue and trying to see how to fix it; I looked at this myself now, and can't see the problem. The next thing I'll have to look at is the embedded templates used in that article, to see if they are using a "ref name" that was changed. —Asterisk*Splat→ 19:50, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
I took another look after a nap. There are at least two problems:
  • The {{hidden}} template encloses a {{reflist}} which contains three list-defined references. By definition of LDR, all three must be full references, but you removed the ref body for the last one, leaving only <ref name="MormonNewsroom.org Education"/>.
  • The aforementioned reflist specifies group=lower-roman, so all citations using the three refs within it have to specify that group name. Otherwise, the software will look in the main reflist for the refs, and will be unable to find them there. ‑‑Mandruss (talk) 23:19, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

I think I have this fixed now. Thanks again for your assistance! —Asterisk*Splat→ 20:44, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Good work. Onward and upward! ‑‑Mandruss (talk) 01:08, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Pls review WP:REDLINK -- you've reverted a couple of my edits when enwp guidelines encourage the creation of certain red links. —Eustress 16:03, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

One of the redlinks was a category; per wp:REDLINKS "An article should never be left with a non-existent (red-linked) category in it". The other was changing an existing, working wikilink to an article with relevant content to a redlink that is unlikely to be created due to notability: see "Do not create red links to articles that are not likely to be created". —Asterisk*Splat→ 16:25, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject LDS Movement

Hi Asterisk, thanks for the invitation, I will try to contribute as much as I can. I'm new here, so still learning how to edit! Bunny3333 (talk) 19:11, 30 September 2014 (UTC)Bunny3333Bunny3333 (talk) 19:11, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Glad to hear you're interested! You're the first person to ever respond directly to me about one of those invitations; I was wondering if I should stop. —Asterisk*Splat→ 01:29, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Well, hello. I was not expecting a welcoming commitee :) In fact I though I was seeing some kind of automated welcome message (a bot?). Also, I don't know if I should respond on my own page or yours, if I should make a new heading or not. It seems like a strange format for talking back and forth. I will probably keep editing in small ways. Maybe I'll be less busy after I graduate? Can't say for sure. Anyway, thank you for your attention. Now I know who to talk to if I have any questions. Ammon0 (talk) 05:51, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for dropping me a note. I'm most definitely not a bot, and I've been trying to point people that might be interested in LDS topics towards that matching project, so that hopefully they can avoid some of the issues that I found along the way, and have a more enjoyable time contributing to those articles. Also there are several different ways to carry on these conversations: my own preference is to reply to the location where the comment is left, so since you left me the note here, this is where I'll reply. If you want we could also move this conversation thread to your talk page; either way is fine by me. Have a great day. —Asterisk*Splat→ 15:16, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

James Strang -- Thank You

I've been meaning to get over here for a few days now to say "thank you" for reverting the recent partisan edits made to the James Strang article. I wrote a huge chunk of that article starting "way back when" in 2007, and I tried very hard to keep it as NPOV and objective as possible. I've been very busy of late and haven't had the time to devote the attention to my "watched" articles that I like to, so I appreciate you catching that. - Ecjmartin (talk) 05:09, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, always glad to get some positive feedback. —Asterisk*Splat→ 17:15, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Last Judgment - Gehenna

Hello AsteriskStarSplat. Why did you make correction on my edit? I add link to Gehenna where is written hell (Luke 12:5) because that is what is written in original, so that people can see to what English translation (hell) is referring to. I am not wrong, here are links for Luke 12:5: Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gehenna#New_Testament , Biblehub (parallel translations): http://biblehub.com/luke/12-5.htm . THIS IS NOT PERSONAL INTERPRETATION. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gsom7 (talk • contribs) 14:06, 26 October 2014‎

We are directly quoting published English text here, not source material that the English wording was translated from. Descriptive, explanatory, and clarifying text belongs before or after a quote (with accompanying reliable sources demonstrating that the clarification is supported by recognised experts); it most definitely does not belong embedded in quote, because doing that turns otherwise useful and supportable material into wp:OR (particularly wp:SYN). I agree that knowing about the word Gehenna and how that word is used in source material can be useful, it's just that you are going about adding that into the article the wrong way, using a method that is against policy. —Asterisk*Splat→ 15:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
In few English, published, translations in Luke 12:5 word Gehenna is in, like: Aramaic Bible in Plain English, Weymouth New Testament, World English Bible and Young's Literal Translation (http://biblehub.com/luke/12-5.htm). So, if I replace word hell with Gehenna in Last Judgment article, I would be right. But, I didn't do that, because I want that people can see that hell, in this place in the Bible, is referring to Gehenna and if they want they can read about Gehenna too. It is very IMPORTANT that in this article, Last Judgment, is mentioned Gehenna - lake of fire, because it has really BIG roll in Last Judgment. And so far it's not mentioned at all. If my way of adding is wrong, add it yourself correctly. Thank you. Gsom7 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gsom7 (talk • contribs) 12:29, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Another AFD you may want to comment on

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Book of Nullification. In case you're interested. Also, just FYI since you dealt with the user a lot, I'm going to start going through the articles created/bloated by User:HectorMoffet (aka User:Darmokand) that would have similar notability concerns. Cheers. --FyzixFighter (talk) 16:58, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks you for pointing that out. I looked over The Book of Nullification to see if there was any useful info that could be added to Christopher Memminger, and found a couple of items. I also !voted on the AfD page. —Asterisk*Splat→ 17:15, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Does it appear to you that the new editor TheResearcher17 (talk · contribs) is editing along these same lines? I see some similarities, but there is not a long enough edit history for me to conclusively say I see a pattern. —Asterisk*Splat→ 19:13, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
I was thinking the same thing when I first saw the new user's edits, but like you said there just isn't enough data to say one way or the other. TheResearcher17 does seem a little more antagonistic and more prone to SYNTH than HM/D, but I could be wrong. If they are one and the same, I'm fairly sure it will be readily apparent. Just watch for the large text dumps and non-notable article subjects. --FyzixFighter (talk) 01:51, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Henri Vidal (sculptor) for Curse and mark of Cain

Created this with a stub to be translated from the French version (the Spanish is a translation of the French) and added template:ill to the entry just in case the stub gets deleted, it will link to the French. Naraht (talk) 19:35, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Latter-day Saint Project

Hello AsteriskStarSplat, I would be happy to join the project. I am about to go their now. Thanks for the invite. Shadow Android (talk) 19:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Extraterrestrial life (|year= -> |date=)

Hi. Regarding this revision, someone else had (probably still has) the same viewpoint as you and left a topic at the bottom of my talk page. I'd like to get your opinion after reading my response to it. Thanks! -- Tom.Reding
 00:43, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

My recent absence from Wikipedia.

Hello. You may have noticed that I have not been active on Wikipedia for about a month. Long story short, I got a job. I still intend to edit Wikipedia regularly, but getting into the groove of the job has left me unable to edit during the last month. So I wanted to drop a line and ask if there were any major changes on Wikipedia pages of interest that I needed to be aware of. You know my interests well enough by now to know what I mean by that. So if you could bring me up to speed, that would be great! Please leave any reply on my talk page as per my usual request. Thanks. --Jgstokes (talk) 05:09, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

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