User talk:Aspland11

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Radio23

Hi,

I have recreated the article in my Userspace as per your feedback. I have tried to avoid any words which may be seen as promotional and/or non-neutral. I have also added further references and links. I hope the article is now acceptible to be moved back into articlespace. Finally I would like to point out that I am not Fiedorczuk or QuietCountry25, although these people are known to me. I look forward to your feedback. Aspland11 (talk) 12:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved the page back into your userspace, as you had created the page in Aspland's userspace. It is now at User:Aspland11/Radio23. I don't know how it looked before, but it looks okay; however, the "Philosophy" section still sounds a tad promotional, and you have too many links in the "Programming" and "Events covered and artists recorded or interviewed" sections. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 15:02, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And also, feel free to create a userpage here. See WP:USERPAGE for more information about what is acceptable or unacceptable on a userpage. Cheers, —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 15:03, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The "philosophy", "programming" and "events covered" sections are blatant resume padding and should be removed. I pruned the puffery, all that's needed now is the addition of reliable independent sources demonstrating notability. At present it is only and A7 speedy, not a G11. Guy (Help!) 18:05, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback. Re-Philosophy, what would you recommend I cut, my inclination would be that the last sentence could go; would that be adequate? Re-links in Programming/Events covered/Artists interviewed: Not sure what to do there because the station does cover a wide array. The Programming list is similar to that on the WFMU page, only smaller, if I left that but cut down the Artists section would that be okay? Again, thanks for your feedback. Aspland11 (talk) 15:36, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not finding much in the way of coverage in reliable sources. This is about the best I can do. I searched some local Portland newspaper websites without any luck. Has this station had any coverage in the alternative press in Portland? We can't have an article based solely on the website of the station itself. Fences&Windows 18:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, re-lack of references, there were references, in fact the article was much longer and well referenced, but if you look at the article history you will see that User:JzG has done six edits on the article. I was in touch with User:MC10 as per the threads message history on my page, and they were on the verge of accepting the article. As this is a page which JzG has deleted before, I don't know why he has done these edits. I asked you and UserMC10 for your advice. I would prefer if you could help me to create an objective non-promtional article. I trust your ability to be fair and objective in this matter. Please help. Am I allowed to undo Guys edits? I did want to cut some stuff as mentioned in the subjects thread on my talk page message. Aspland11 (talk) 19:46, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Guy can be quite uncompromising in his editing. Blogs can be acceptable as reliable sources if they are part of a news agency or are otherwise known to have editorial oversight, so the Williamette Week blog is fine by me, ditto the Williamette Radio Workshop. Possibly the Northside Festival site and the WK site, but neither are really independent so don't help contribute to notability. Nyctaper looks unreliable, I'd not use that source. DJ Ola's site might be OK as an external link. Brookyln Heights Courier article doesn't mention Radio23. I would avoid adding back the content on philosophy, it waxed lyrical without really conveying any information, and repeating a big list of the types of music played or the artists interviewed really falls foul of the fact that Wikipedia is not indiscriminate or a directory. Fences&Windows 20:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I can remove the link you said looks unreliable, no problem. Re- the Brooklyn Heights Courier, the article mentions Radio23 in paragraph eight. I believe I cited it for DJ 9-Eleven Thesaurus, a youth-group collective who DJ on Radio23. Philosophy can go if need be. The list of musical styles reflects the content on the WFMU page, which Radio23 is related to and shares an archive with. Does that need to go? User:MC10 suggested I shorten the list of artists features, which I wrote back to them indicating my willingness to do so, but it can go if you think it totally neccessary. I am ready to undertake all changes that you see fit. Let me know what you think. What can I do? If the page meets the criteria and you see it as fit and valid, can it be afforded some sort of protection? Thanks Aspland11 (talk) 20:44, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What I meant wasn't that you had to remove all of the programming, but that you did not need to link all of them. I also agree that the list is a bit excessive; cut down to the main ones. Since I don not know much about Radio23, I am not of much help, but I hope you can limit the number down to about 5-10. I also agree with Fences and Windows above: Guy (aka JzG) is a bit harsh on his editing. Instead of using all of your links as references, you can add a "External links" section with these links. Right now, the article would not stand for inclusion, as there are almost no sources; however, I do agree that some of your sources were okay. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 02:15, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message. I noticed that after you wrote you did an edit on the article; would it be okay to stand now as you've edited it? It looks good to me- thanks for the help. If so can I move it back to articlespace or would it be better if you did it to lessen the likelihood of it being deleted again? Aspland11 (talk) 11:30, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Re:Ola's Kool Kitchen

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DYK for Radio23

On July 7, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Radio23, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Articles for deletion nomination of Ola's Kool Kitchen

I have nominated Ola's Kool Kitchen, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ola's Kool Kitchen. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

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DYK for Ola's Kool Kitchen

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