User talk:Armandaneshjoo

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Zoom Hunting

The article you created is now located at Zoom Hunting; no disambiguation is needed when there is no other topic on Wikipedia with the same name. Please work on your article at Zoom Hunting instead of creating more redirects/new titles for the same film. Bennv123 (talk) 11:41, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. The redirect page was autogenerated by the move function used to comply wit WP:TITLE and WP:NFC. Plot added and article was promoted from stub to start. Thank you for adding references. --Armandaneshjoo (talk) 11:44, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Proposed deletion of Orange Pi

The article Orange Pi has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Lack of notability (only source is the company's own website), article is heavily promotional and entirely written by an AI language model. It overall seems like this page only exists for promotional reasons, so it might violate WP:NOTADVERT, WP:NOTPROMO.

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Orange Pi page

Hi! I see you created the Orange Pi page some time ago. The page had problems, like promotional tone, to the point of being considered for PROD. I would like to focus on something else. You claimed the Orange Pi OS is based on Debian, when in fact it is based on Arch. I fixed that. Luhanopi (talk) 03:26, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. As for PROD it can proceed. I've stopped editing the article, as I'm finding the Wikipedia community and administration quite hostile, and I'm afraid of getting banned and losing my account. Several of my friends with large edit count have already lost theirs. Armandaneshjoo (talk) 07:48, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

The PROD was accident and quickly opposed. Your contributions were quite helpful. Were they machine-translated or written by a LLM/AI? Luhanopi (talk) 12:01, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Response

(1) I wrote this because Orange Pi was hyped up when I did and there was no neutral coverage. But I definitely thought this was notable and well covered.

(2) I came to agree with prod because The company was damaged soon after due to economic upheaval in China, and it didn't rise to prominence the way most sources predicted. The same happened to many other Raspberry Pi copycats. Rockchip is the only one that survived. That left me with no further coverage to improve the article, and there seems to be no new models coming out, leading to two problems: lack of notability, and sufficient secondary sources.

(3) I did get help from Google Gemini, but I checked, verified and rewrote pretty much all of it. I didn't know Wikipedia was against AI-assisted work. I'm actually glad it is. We use Wikipedia to train AI. If AI starts writing Wikipedia, it becomes a vicious loop.

(4) I like Wikipedia and consider most contributors and admins hard-working, well-meaning, helpful, and sympathetic. But it has no laws or guardrails against straight-up malintent, which makes us ripe for abuse like a pack of sheep. And now a few bullies have taken over, kicking everyone out on loose grounds. Wikibooks have a much better environment. So I just switched to writing books where my overall contribution can easily outweigh my mistakes. I haven't published anything yet, but have a few hundred pages in the pipeline. Armandaneshjoo (talk) 14:53, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

1) If you added just facts it would be another story. You were writing like an advertisement.

And you say it is notable becausr you think it will be?

And plz avoid things like opinions etc. Best if can be verified with sources. Requiring original research (bad) is another thing compared to posting opinions as facts. Also avoud close paraphrasing not-free sources.

3) It is not. You didn't proofread it enough. You didn't check facts (Raspberry Pi OS is Debian based, Orange Pi OS is Arch based. Unsure if PRi OS works on OPi). If you would peer review ehat AI wrote it would be ok, but that would be more work than writing from scratch.

4) It has. Everything (almost) is in the public logs. Email me (through Wikipedia) the information about that. Also, admins DO make mistakes. I (not an admin) for example once reverted a vandalism revert and when I noticed I self-reverted. Didn't say sorry except in edit summary cos I noticed it fast.

To email use: Special:EmailUser Luhanopi (talk) 15:06, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Response

1) Fair. I was excited. + I was thinking for a long time what was wrong with the way I wrote. It never occurred to me I'm using a non-free source. It should've. Thanks.

3) I did proofread and fact-check a lot. I'm just not good at that. Where I live, standards are so low it's hard to get better. This is why I write a lot and publish little. I'm just not good enough yet. Armandaneshjoo (talk) 03:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Sources don't have to be free! They have to be reliable. Sources related to the subject are considered not reliable. Sources requiring payment to access, such as scientific journals are also allowed.

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Not-free sources are not to be copy-pasted or closely paraphrased, due to copyright issues.

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The problem was different.

"[S]mall, affordable computers" is passing opinions as facts; there is no objective definition of "small" nor "affordable". "The company also provides its own operating system, Orange Pi OS, based on Debian Linux, and offers extensive documentation and community support for its products." also uses subjective words, such as "extensive", "offers" (partly tone problem). That sentence also claims that the OS is based on Debian, not Arch, which is a hoax I spotted after a long time. "offer different hardware" - no, "the company manufacturers/makes different hardware". "Since its inception" - too poetic for an encyclopedia. "becoming a leading player in the development board market" - weasel words. "Today, Orange Pi is recognized for its extensive product line, focus on affordability, and dedication to open-source practices." - recognized by whom, how extensive, how affordable, "dedicated" - problematic. You also overused active voice. "wide range of products" - subjective (how wide?). Words such as "popular" which are subjective. "Due to their low cost and open-source nature, Orange Pi boards have gained a niche following among hobbyists, tinkerers, and educators. They are often praised for their affordability and potential for various DIY projects." - praised by whom?, "open-source nature" - bad word choice, nakes it less readable. "face some criticisms" - "face" is bad word for encyclopedia and "some" is a weasel word. "Additionally, their GPIO pins and diverse connectivity options allow them to be integrated into various applications" - all SBCs' GPIO pins allow that.

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It is written like an advertisement. This article sounds like you were paid by the company to write about them, but it was just (likely) written by AI.

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I guess the LLM you used just "read" a lot of advertisements so it writes like one. Information about proofreading in the reply.

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Contact me on my talk page (or via email if you have to) if you have any problems in the future (or now).

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Send me evidence of that malintent via email (if you really insist I could provide you with a PGP key) and I will look through it, provide a second opinion (it could just have been a misunderstanding), and advice you to, or not to contact beurocrats (or stewards/ombuds). If you have a problem with email, reply to me here, I can try to establish alternative communication channels. Luhanopi (talk) 12:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

I will teach you how to proofread what was written by LLM on Wikipedia.

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You get the text, you read it left or right top to bottom and ANYWHERE there could be something untrue (no matter how unlikely) you check it. Everything.

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You will quickly notice it is faster to do that manually.

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You also are to add inline citations and links to the article.

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Even Luhanopi (talk) 12:57, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

I am kinda new but may coach you Luhanopi (talk) 13:00, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

I have contacted you via email. Armandaneshjoo (talk) 18:11, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

I know. I am kinda busy will take a lool when I have time. It seems to be a "checkuser" ban. Luhanopi (talk) 18:17, 5 November 2024 (UTC)