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Ways to improve Lev door

Hello, Architectsmag,

Thank you for creating Lev door.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

It's not clear that this significantly different from a Dutch door, or the Irish variant discussed there. The one source in the current article doesn't use the term 'Lev door', and this is hence a neologism unsupported by the source. I suppose that this was being named after Jiri Lev; it seems rather fortuitous that 'LEV' is sometimes used for 'local exhaust ventillation'! Perhaps merging to Dutch door is the best way to manage this (merge for context).

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Klbrain (talk) 08:30, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your note. Admittedly, I only used one reference. I will rectify this. (I just thought it would be worth starting the page as this is extremely practical and affordable way to improve energy efficiency which most people just don't know about. This could save a lot of MWh of electricity!)

I was unaware of Irish doors, but upon Google search, it appears that these are basically the same as Dutch doors: small external door opening with panel cut in half. I see these doors in stables these days. In the past they were no doubt necessary in farmhouses too.

You are correct, they are visually similar, yet I think completely different in purpose, and also in actual execution. (For instance, dutch doors link together to act as single door most of the time. Lev door stays open either at the top, bottom, or all of it, most of the times. Panels typically don't link together.) Lev doors fall under new sustainable architecture, Dutch under barns and historic farmhouses ...

Having said that I will look into this further and get back when I have a moment.

For now, I have added clarification as follows: "The configuration of Lev door is similar to Dutch door, however they differ in size, configuration and purpose: The former is used primarily internally for improved energy efficiency in sustainable architecture, the latter is used primarily externally for exclusion of livestock."

Many thanks! Architectsmag (talk) 03:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I know that the current Dutch door article focuses on historic uses, but the term is in modern use for both internal and external doors. For example:

Verderber, S. (2014///Summer). Residential hospice environments: Evidence-based architectural and landscape design considerations. Journal of Palliative Care, 30(2), 69-82. Retrieved from https://www.proquest.com/scholarly-journals/residential-hospice-environments-evidence-based/docview/1536115423/se-2

uses 'Dutch doors' to describe separating internal spaces is hospices.

Passantino, Richard J.; Bavier, Robert N. (1 December 1994). "Environmental Quality of Child Day-Care Facilities: An Architect's Point of View". Pediatrics. 94 (6): 1036–1039. doi:10.1542/peds.94.6.1036.: talks about (internal) Dutch doors as problematic in child-care environment because of finger trapping and fire regulations (harder to close)

Chinese Houses of Southeast Asia. The Eclectic Architecture of Sojourners & Settlers, Ronald J. Knapp, talks about half-doors or "divided door panels" in Chinese architechtural traditions.

So, my view is still that this is a topic best discussed in one place without arguing that this as a new idea for internal doors. Klbrain (talk) 15:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]