User talk:Apalacheelee

My edits under "modern descendants" for our Apalachee Wikipedia page section is true and historically correct. This needs to be changed to what was edit. Wikipedia is showing false information of the Apalachee tribe.

Not only should you not be editing the article, we need sources meeting WP:V and WP:RS. Please click on those links. Doug Weller talk 20:05, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

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Do you hold any post of responsibility in the tribe?

Thanks. Doug Weller talk 10:59, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

As of June 18th, 2022, I am the duly elected Co-Chief of the tribe. There has been a lot of misrepresentation of the tribe and information online that needs to be updated. The Apalachee Wiki page will be edited to match the history and current events of the tribe in order to further preserve our story. Apalacheelee (talk) 15:23, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

In that case please read the warning below. Doug Weller talk 15:52, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

I am trying to correct Wikipedia's outdated material for the Apalachee in Modern Descendants and I did cite my material. The URLs actually lead to the tribe which is the source itself, but Wikipedia doesn't approve. If there is an issue with what I'm citing then point me in the direction to someone that can help get this information out there! Apalacheelee (talk) 02:09, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

There is no one to point you to. We are all volunteers here but Wikipedia has its policies and guidelines and we must all follow them. I personally believe you are acting in good faith and trying to do only what you have stated here. However, you should stop trying to put this information into the article until you have read and understood the encyclopedia's policies as has been provided to you. If you have a question about any of it you can always ask me on my talk page or seek assistance at the Teahouse. I am not here to corroborate your claims to your ancestry nor deny them but you should most definitely not edit any part of that article related to the modern tribal organization you are a part of. Use the article talk page to suggest changes and provide reliable independent secondary sources for those changes. In regards to the historical Apalachee culture, I see no issue with you having the ability to edit the article or any other article there may be on that Native culture, only the modern tribal organization you are co-Chief of. --ARoseWolf 12:52, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

I'll add to this that I've been looking for sources. I cannot find sources for genealogical claims (the claims themselves, not sources mentioning them, or the actual "records uncovered in Rapides Parish, Louisiana," - I can find sources mentioning them but none showing them, so I can't verify it as the claim might come from your tribe and that's not a reliably published source by our criteria. I'm frustrated that I can't afford vol 14 of theHandbook of North American Indians which describes your band. Do you have it? I can find the University of Miami symposium- I used to live in Coral Gables and was born in Miami. These [https://eu.floridatoday.com/story/news/2016/04/04/florida-frontiers-story-apalachee/82609778/, [1][2][3][4] might be helpful for some purposes, not all. Please use the article talk page from now on. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 14:23, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Apalacheelee. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Apalachee, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Doug Weller talk 15:51, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

August 2022

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Apalachee, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Ignore the bit about adding sources as you should not be editing this article Doug Weller talk 18:58, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Apalachee, you may be blocked from editing. Donald Albury 01:25, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

August 2022

Because you have a Conflict of interest and have been consistently adding unreferenced or poorly referenced content, I have blocked you from editing Apalachee. You are free to make well-referenced Edit requests at Talk: Apalachee. Please read the Guide to appealing blocks. Cullen328 (talk) 16:52, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

This is unfortunate. I was hoping we could avoid a block from the page because, though I haven't corroborated your claims of the modern Apalachee tribal organization's connection to the historic Apalachee Nation, if you are correct then we have effectively blocked someone from editing an article on their ancestral heritage at least partly because they have a COI with the modern tribal organization and with such low representation from Native peoples that possibility feels terrible. It's just unfortunate all around. Hopefully you will see these messages and go to the article talk page as we have asked you to do and will begin communicating there with us so we can verify sources and potentially improve the article. --ARoseWolf 14:51, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

It has been 16 years since I remember last interacting with someone from the tribe trying to edit the article. That was less contentious than this time, but I got busy and didn't follow-up with the user, and they disappeared. Since the tribe has not been officially recognized by the federal government or a state government (a bill to recognize the Talimali band was in process in the Louisiana legislature this year, but does not seem to have moved since May), it is hard to determine who officially represents the Apalachee (I've seen a website for a group of Apalachees who are not part of the Talimali band, but I can't find it today). The Apalachees did a good job of hiding from the authorities (with good reason) for a long time, and that means there is now a dearth of reliable sources about the present population. Finding and incorporating reliable sources about the current population of Apalachees will requite some effort and patience. - Donald Albury 16:44, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

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