User talk:Andy Reinhardt

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 21:01, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Richard Warren Reinhardt

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:54, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Richard Warren Reinhardt (May 22)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by S0091 was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

What he has written or said is not independent so cannot be used to establish notability. Need reliable sources that have in-depth about him. Also, external hyperlinks do not belong in the text so those need to be removed. In addition, generally for a writer to be notable, their works should be notable meaning there are Wikipedia articles about them so suggest starting his books first (see WP:NBOOK).

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S0091 (talk) 17:10, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Andy Reinhardt! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! S0091 (talk) 17:10, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

His books are notable

Hi Andy, out of curiosity, I did a quick search on Out West on the Overland Train and found three reviews on JSTOR which is certainly enough to meet notability for an article about that book and I imagine at least another one or two of his books are similar. The issue often with writers (especially journalist) is not much is written about them which makes a biographical article difficult. However, if there is enough written about their work, that can be used to support notability. Feel free to reach out to me on my talk page (click the "talk" link by my signature). S0091 (talk) 17:39, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am responding to you here rather than my talk page because I figure that is easier for you. Yes, I can tell a lot went into the draft and it is certainly well-written. The main issue is the lack of sources as most of it is unsourced. For example, there are no cited sources for the Early life and education section. While sources do not need to be online, they do need to be published sources from reputable publications and you need to include enough information someone can find it, even if that means in archives at a library or some other institution. For example, for a newspaper article, you need to provide the author (if known), title of the article, publication and date published.

Take a look at this guide for citing sources. I generally use Visual Editor (note the Cite button may display as the quote icon, rather than word "Cite" but its next to the link icon) and you will want to use Manual then fill out the relevant fields, (Automatic works for many online sources by copying in the URL or the ISBN for books).

Do you have access library resources? As I stated, I was able to find some sources about one of his books and hopefully can find more about him and his books but that will not be helpful if you cannot access them so will need to figure something out.

As for the external links, it's links like you used for Kilpatrick's Bakery (Kilpatrick's Bakery) but honestly who his father's clients were should not be included. These are minor issues, though and certainly will not cause the draft to not be accepted. Also, I wouldn't fret too much about finding sources about him serving on various boards as none of that helps with establishing notability which the main focus. S0091 (talk) 14:39, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I actually went ahead and started a draft so I could get down some of the sources: Draft:Out West on the Overland Train. S0091 (talk) 16:04, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Richard Reinhardt (author) has been accepted

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S0091 (talk) 19:28, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dear S0091, I don't know whether it was you or somebody else, but the Richard Reinhardt article, with lots of excellent edits, has gone live. I am absolutely delighted. Thank you so much for all the research you did to find the many reference links I didn't even know existed. Do you still think it's worth my developing separate pages for a few of his books? Andy Reinhardt (talk) 19:48, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Andy, yes I did some research thinking you likely did not have access to resources or it would be difficult. Largely you made it easy as I just need to back into the facts you laid out although that is WP:BACKWARD to technically how an encyclopedia article should be written where you start with published sources then summarize what they say. However, you really did stick to verifiable facts, even if you didn't realize it and it was already well-written in addition Reinhardt (your father?...no need to confirm but am assuming) is an interesting person I did remove some content for which I was unable to find sources and/or seemed trivial given this is a global encyclopedia.

Strictly from an encyclopedic perspective, I think an article or two about his books would make it more "whole" if that makes sense. It's you up to you, I don't mind sending sources to you via email. I love doing research but loathe writing lol. No issue at all if you are not up to it. Wikipedia is almost entirely volunteer so even those of us who are "experienced" do what we want to do.

Can you view the newspaper sources I added (via Newspapers.com)? My understanding is the public should be able to view them if they are "clipped" and this was my first time using the clip method so appreciate feedback. S0091 (talk) 20:25, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again for your amazing work on this. You made my month and year! And thank you also for your kind words. I spent a lot of time on the draft and I appreciate your comment on its accuracy, even if it was a backwards encyclopedia process. Most of all, I appreciate the edits and improvements. I do know that most Wikipedia editors are volunteers. I might be interested in getting involved after I retire.

Yes, Dick Reinhardt is my dad. I desperately wanted his important work and contributions to be noted. I am a journalist also, hence the insistence on honesty.

I'll check out the reference links for the "clips."

I am at areinhardt at gee-mail dot com. Andy Reinhardt (talk) 04:18, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]