User talk:Andrewgrosman

File copyright problem with File:P&H 4100XPC electric mining shovel.jpg

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File permission problem with File:P&H 4100XPC electric mining shovel.jpg

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Image copyright issues

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Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:32, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

what gives you the permission to delete all the contributions/research (references) I did to joy global ?

i understand more information can be added but yours appears to be just copy pasted material from somewhere else. I provided many references and other information that you just removed. I will either report this on the administrator board or give you one chance to incorporate at least half of the material I originally provided in the article, in the current edit. if you don't respond I'm going to revert all the information back to what was there originally. A complete rewrite was unecessary given that there were no templates at the top of the article indicating there was anything seriously wrong with it.Grmike (talk) 00:18, 21 July 2010 (UTC)grmike

Hello Grmike,

First of all I very much want to incorporate information and references you made into the Joy Global story back into the page. Yours/other's effort in research and writing deserves to be part of any accurate page. More discussion of that moving forward, particularly tomorrow when I get a better chance to discuss this with you. Can I ask what your interest is in the Company, and its history?

Second, while the information may "appear" to have been copy/pasted, feel free to check in a search engine (can't do it in Copyscape of course). 95% of the info supplied comes directly from a P&H Mining Equipment/Harnischfeger Historian who has been with the company for around 33 years.

Third, in direct answer to your question, I have truly have {no} permission, or right, to blow away the page and make it my own. But the information that was there did need some retooling; as you saw in some of my earlier edits: Harnischfeger was misspelled - beyond that the logo was wrong (looked to be copy/pasta'd from an old annual report I think), "joy global" wasn't capped, P&H really only markets their Shovels Draglines Drills, and In Pit Crushers; not all of the parts that might be around 900-count. Other things, but this isn't about it being completely wrong and mine being completely right. Your point is valid and I look forward to discussing this page more with you.

Finally, if you look at my user page, you will probably deduce why I have such an interest in this page.  : )

Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks, Andrewgrosman (talk) 21:24, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

as good as they are, well regarded pubs such as ________ the map is not the terrain

for a start I'm going to revert the whole introduction to the way it was before. I think most of my contributions made the article a lot more easier to get core information from than what it is now. the new information you added is very helpful but to people who want something quick to glance at there's no place on the page that gives a lot of information in a small paragraph.

"Finally, if you look at my user page, you will probably deduce why I have such an interest in this page." then you better not delete any more of my contributions because I could bring up Wikipedia:Conflict of interest Grmike (talk) 09:54, 22 July 2010 (UTC)grmike

Look forward to collaborating on this with you. Andrewgrosman (talk) 13:57, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

should we include an image on the page ? maybe one of the people who started the company or joe francis joy's inventions.Grmike (talk) 03:04, 23 July 2010 (UTC)grmike

Yes. Working on getting permission from JGI Public Affairs now for Mr. Harnischfeger, Pawling, and Joy to be on the page.Andrewgrosman (talk) 14:03, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

excellent work ! looks a lot better. the information you added makes the article a lot more relevant and informative.Grmike (talk) 05:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)grmike

Thx Grmike. Andrewgrosman (talk) 21:22, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

File:P&H Mining Henry Harnischfeger.jpg

Could you check whether this photo is eligible for even freer licences? Since the person looks not too old on the picture and was born 1855, it could be eliguble for {{PD-old}}, which would make a transfer to commons easier. The picture would be a great help improving the article about Henry Harnischfeger in the German wikipedia, which until now has no articles on Joy or P&H.--Στε φ (talk) 10:45, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Ok sombody already moved the picture to commons, if they accept the licensing its fine with me. It would still be interesting to know which year the photo was taken.--Στε φ (talk) 10:48, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

I am going to do my best to track down a hard copy of this file in the photo archives - will keep you posted. Andrewgrosman (talk) 14:05, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:P&H Mining Henry Harnischfeger.jpg

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File permission problem with File:P&H blast hole production drill.jpg

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File permission problem with File:P&H in-pit crushing-conveying system.jpg

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March 2017

Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. This is just a note to let you know that I've moved the draft that you were working on to Draft:Grosman Cabin, from its old location at User:Andrewgrosman/Grosman Cabin. This has been done because the Draft namespace is the preferred location for Articles for Creation submissions. Please feel free to continue to work on it there. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:26, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Grosman Cabin concern

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Your draft article, Draft:Grosman Cabin

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File:P&H overhead bridge crane circa 1888.jpg listed for discussion

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