User talk:Andreclos
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- Thankyou for your recent edits to the Brighton bypass article. I have noticed your statements in the edit summaries and am wondering if they were directed at me or the previous person to edit the article? I do try to maintain a neutral point of view when editing but could always do with more advice in perfecting this. I did create this article with some haste and have tried to make the references as good as possible but clearly I could do with some improvement here also, thanks for your time. Wiki ian
- Also, can you explain to me the issues with inline citations? I'm guessing that comment was aimed at myself? Wiki ian 09:30, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- I've been looking over the historys and I'm fairly confident your remarks were aimed at the previous editor on the article and not myself. However if you have any advise you want to give me regarding my edits then please feel free. Thanks heaps Wiki ian 09:38, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Wiki, the edits I was critical of were made by ArchWatch starting 15:22 22nd July, which was well after your edits. I had a quick look at your edits to Brighton Bypass and I can't see anything wrong with them (although see below para starting "Regarding advice you asked for advice, so... below), and my comments certainly weren't aimed at you.
- I've been looking over the historys and I'm fairly confident your remarks were aimed at the previous editor on the article and not myself. However if you have any advise you want to give me regarding my edits then please feel free. Thanks heaps Wiki ian 09:38, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Also, can you explain to me the issues with inline citations? I'm guessing that comment was aimed at myself? Wiki ian 09:30, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Regarding "inline citations", what I'm referring to is where ArchWatch inserted links to PDFs in the text without using a citation template. Citation templates start with "{{cite", for example "<ref>{{cite web|title=example web page citation|url=http://www.somesite.com/page.html|author=Fred Smith|publisher=Some reliable news organisation}}</ref>". Done this way, only the superscript (numbers in square brackets raised above the line of normal text) appear in the text, and the citation information appears nicely formatted in the References section. That's the standard and correct way of doing it, but if you look at the recent history for Brighton Bypass you can see that ArchWatch inserted a number of quite lengthy PDF links in the text. This makes the text hard to read.
- I understand that people like ArchWatch get upset about issues and want to argue them, but Wikipedia is not the place to argue a personal viewpoint.
- Regarding advice for you about your edits generally, I had a quick look at your edits on pages other than Brighton Bypass and I noticed in Hobart Bypass you added a reference ".<ref>http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2010/11/23/188121_tasmania-news.html</ref>". Now this is both good and bad. It is good because it avoids putting the link inline in the text, i.e. it moves it to the references section and places a superscript link at the point where you inserted the reference. However it is bad because you don't describe the reference at all, you only provide the raw link. Wikipedia standard practice for doing this is to create a Citation using one of the many templates available. For web pages, the "{{cite web}}" template is best. These templates allow you to provide more information such as author, publisher, date accesses etc, all of which are highly desirable things in a citation and help to tell the reader how useful the citation is likely to be, e.g. how long it is since it was last checked, who it is published by, etc. You can get more information from WP:CIT and I encourage you to read this.
- Please let me know if you would like more information. Andreclos (talk) 12:30, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Alpaca
[edit]for you what mean linneaus 1758 in taxobox
OJX (talk) 08:08, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
- If i understand you correctly you want to know what I understand "Linneaus 1758" in the taxobox to mean. My understanding is that it is the binomial naming system defined by Linneaus in 1758 in his 10th edition of Systema Naturae and the subsequent usage of that system. Systema Naturae defined the structure and binomial naming conventions generally agreed to by scientists ever since. The original "10th edition of Systema Naturae" does not contain the definitive list of animal names. The definitive list has been growing and changing ever since. As far as I can tell, the custodians of the agreed names is the International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature. However, also as far as I can see, the agreed name for any given species is basically what scientists with most knowledge of that species agree to call it. The best reference for names I can find is the Encyclopedia of Life at http://www.eol.org. I see this contains Lama pacos and not Vicugna pacos as the name for alpaca. However I also note that in the page for Lama Pacos at http://www.eol.org/pages/309015 it says "many authors suggest that the correct name for the alpaca is therefore Vicugna pacos (Kadwell et al. 2001; Marín et al. 2007).". It may take 50 years for conservative organisations to catch up with reality, but in my opinion, based on the paper delivered to the Royal Society cited in the Alpaca page by Wheeler et al, and based on the above suggestion in eol.org that "many authors suggest that the correct name for the alpaca is Vicugna pacos", in my opinion the section of the scientific community who best understand this agree that it should be called Vicugna pacos. I cannot find any opinion in the scientific community that argues that Lama pacos should be retained. Thus the name shown should be Vicguna Pacos, not Lama pacos. Andreclos (talk) 10:36, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
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