Hello, Anderskw! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. You may benefit from following some of the links below, which will help you get the most out of Wikipedia. If you have any questions you can ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or by typing four tildes "~~~~"; this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you are already loving Wikipedia you might want to consider being "adopted" by a more experienced editor or joining a WikiProject to collaborate with others in creating and improving articles of your interest. Click here for a directory of all the WikiProjects. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Happy editing! Burner0718Wutsapnin?00:56, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Because my sweatshirt reads "UCLA BRUINS EST 1919." Because Bill Clinton said on May 20, 1994, at Pauley Pavilion, "I'm proud to be here to honor the University's 75th anniversary, ..." (Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis died that day.) Because UCLA Timeline has this entry: "1919 California Gov. William D. Stephens signs Assembly Bill 626, establishing the Southern Branch of the University of California. The Vermont Avenue campus opens on Sept. 15, offering two-year undergraduate programs to 260 Junior College students and 1,078 students in the Teachers Training program, under the direction of Ernest Carroll Moore." Because UCLA had these celebrations: "WWII PUT DAMPER ON 25TH ANNIVERSARY, BUT GALA CELEBRATIONS IN '69 HIGHLIGHTED 50TH BASH" Who cares about the "history of Ariz State, SDSU, SJSU, SFSU and chico state"? Ucla90024 (talk) 02:17, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You mean the University's 75th Anniversary celebration is not reliable? The 50th anniversary? Just like you have your birthday party is not reliable? Bill Clinton was invited to speak for the fun of it and the White House would publish his speech? When the Governor signed the bill to make UCLA was not reliable? :) Ucla90024 (talk) 19:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that the state normal school was established in 1881, but UCLA, in its present form, was not established as part of the University of California until 1919. This date is the most accurate "establishment date." I'm not denying the fact that UCLA's origins can be traced back to its roots as a normal school, but to say that UCLA existed before 1919 is not only misleading, but also patently incorrect. The origins of UCLA, as a normal school, are still in the text of the article, but the date in the infobox is (and always should be) the year that the normal school became a part of the University of California. This is the date that UCLA recognize and it is also the date that students, alumni, faculty, and staff are familiar with. —ŁittleÄlien¹8²03:22, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
