User talk:Ancheta Wis/m

Which brings us to Filipino ethnicity. To a Filipino American, in danger of forgetting the basics, the Filipino heritage is very rich. I wonder to myself why the amazing parts of Filipino heritage are not even mentioned in the encyclopedia. In my view, there is nothing to be ashamed of in the history. It is amazing and something to be proud of. Why has there been no mention of the custom of smoking the dead in the Cordillera? Why has there been no mention of the existence of food that was here before Magellan, prepared in a way that is recognizable today? What about the Igorots? My own grandmother used to sew shirts for the Igorots; it was easy to size their shirts because they didn't wear pants then. What about the bangca? They were much more maneuverable and seaworthy than the European designs. What about the sails? The design was clearly independent and unique. Why do we not have this in the encyclopedia?

The comparison of a tree to a Wikipedia article is well taken. In a mature forest the trees are tall (100-150 feet; Lewis and Clark recorded the existence of 200-foot trees; I noted one in a hike up Old Rag Mountain), thin in proportion to a lone tree, which can spread out spherically, and can include oaks and maples of equal height in peaceful coexistence. You are right; it is silent in such a forest as well. But each tree can be magnificent and well formed, thin-looking (not too many branches), 3-foot diameter at breast height. (I visit such a forest weekly. The residents of the forest can not withstand eminent domain.) --Ancheta Wis 10:19, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some playlist entries for realplayer

Jesu, Joy Of Man's Desiring (track)| Russ Freeman (Guitar) (artist)|, James Galway (artist)|
National Emblem (track)| U.S. Army Band & Chorus (artist)|
The Sea Hawk (track)| Erich Wolfgang Korngold (composer)|
Pomp and Circumstance Marches - No. 4 Allegro marziale (track)| Edward Elgar (composer)|
La primavera - spring con 1 in e major (track)| Vivaldi (composer)|
L'estate - summer con 2 in g minor (track)| Vivaldi (composer)|
L'autunno - autumn con 3 in f major (track)| Vivaldi (composer)|
L'inverno - winter con 4 in f minor (track)| Vivaldi (composer)|
Toccata and Fugue in D Minor (track)| Johann Sebastian Bach (composer)|
The Planets; Mars, Bringer of War (track)| Gustav Holst (composer)|
Rite of Spring - XIII - Sacrificial Dance (track)| Igor Stravinsky (composer)|
Also sprach Zarathustra, Op. 30 - I - Sehr Breit (track)| Richard Strauss (composer)|
Night On Bald Mountain (track)| Modest Mussourgsky (composer)|
The Pleiades, First Movement (track)| Iannis Xenakis (composer)|
Troika - (from Prokofiev's "Lieutenant Kije Suite")(track)| Prokofiev(composer)|
Giant (track) | RKO Orchestra With Joe Leahy (artist)|
Giant Thunderclogs. (track) | Brian Clark (Artist: )|
Phir Na Kije Mera (track) | Khaiyyaam (artist)|
Enigma Variations - Andante | Edward Elgar (composer)|

Factually incorrect

The second and third paragraphs strike me as pretty inaccurate. Comparisons of pre-colonized African life and modern American life found that the hunter-gatherers of Africa had far more free time for self-expression and self-actualization than do low-level workers in the modern period. Furthermore suggesting that individuality is "in the fabric of American society" and that Americans have a special love of privacy seems pretty vague and POV. AaronSw 15:17, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It is a little more complex than this. There are many more people alive today thanks to industrialization and public health/hygiene. 100 years ago, 95% of a nation like the US was agricultural; now 2% of the population devote themselves to agriculture. The peoples of the Earth actually hunted animals like the passenger pigeon to extinction, when these birds darkened the skies by the billions. Americans felt free to kill them all, there were so many. The other nations similarly killed off their fauna as well. Just look at the depopulation and deforestation currently in process, world-wide. So we see a world where people are crowding into cities (currently 50% of the populace is urbanized), depopulating the rural areas. But because everyone has similar needs (food water shelter), we see even greater competition. What you seem to be decrying is standardization, which is an effect of industrialization. When you can buy a cheap T-shirt, shorts and flip-flops and thus proudly wear what everyone else is wearing, you have spent $10 for what used to take months of labor for spinning and weaving. But the weavers could customize their goods, unlike the T-shirt wearers, who must select from a limited number of designs in order to standardize their labors. During the millennia when the Native Americans had the 'freedom' to 'do as they wished' they had to hunt and gather and protect themselves from being killed by enemies. That's why the Native Americans were taught to be silent; to make a racket meant you could be more easily detected and killed.

Read Alexis de Toqueville for the 'love of individuality' you are questioning (this trait has existed in the US since at least the 1800s).

But if you are decrying those who must ask 'and would you like fries with that', then you have just guaranteed they will loose their jobs for not following their work duties. And if you are criticizing the business which require their workers to speak in a certain way and wear standard clothes, you are actually criticizing their business model. Thus we see that 2 hours of asking and would you like fries with that will get you the T-shirt, shorts and flip-flops you get to wear off the job.

Furthermore, it is going to be difficult to get back to a world where there are billions of passenger pigeons. Humanity seems to have killed them all off. I am not going to defend this article any further, but it seems to me you have just incurred an obligation to improve it if you disagree with its current state. --Ancheta Wis 16:20, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

List of Pueblos

Acoma Pueblo NM 87034 - Keres speakers: ako-meh. Oldest continuously inhabited village in US.
Cicuye Pueblo - now Pecos Pueblo, survivors moved to Jemez Pueblo 1830s.
Cochiti Pueblo NM 87072 - Keres speakers: ko-chits. Church 1628. Feast Day: July 14
Hopi Tribe Kykotsmovi AZ 86039 - Hopi speakers. Area of present villages settled around 700 A.D.
Isleta Pueblo NM 87022 - Tiwa speakers: tue-i. Established 1300s. Feast Days: call.
Jemez Pueblo NM 87024 - Towa speakers: wala-towa. Photography and sketching prohibited at pueblo, but welcomed at Red Rocks.
Laguna Pueblo NM 87026 - Keres speakers: ka-waika. Ancestors 3000 BC, established before 1300. Church July 4, 1699. Photography and sketching prohibited on the land, but welcomed at San Jose Mission Church.
Nambe Pueblo - Tewa speakers: nam-beh. Established 1300s. Ceremonials July 4, October 4
Picuris Pueblo, Peñasco NM 87553 - Tiwa speakers: we-lai. Feast Day August 10
Piru or Piro Puebloans, Socorro NM - did not participate in Pueblo revolt
Pojoaque Pueblo, Santa Fe NM 87506 - Tewa speakers: po-suwae-geh. Re-established 1930s. Feast Day December 12, January 6
Sandia Pueblo, Bernalillo NM 87004 - Tiwa speakers: Originally named Nafiat. Established 1300s. On the northern outskirts of Albuquerque.
San Felipe Pueblo NM 87001 - Keres speakers: koots-cha. 1706. Photography and sketching prohibited at pueblo. Feast Day May 1
San Ildefonso Pueblo, Santa Fe NM 87506 - Tewa speakers: po-woh-geh. Originally at Mesa Verde and Bandelier. The valuable black-on-black pottery was developed here by Maria and Julian Martinez. Photography and sketching prohibited at pueblo. Heavily-visited destination. Feast Day January 23.
San Juan Pueblo NM 87566 - Tewa speakers: Originally named O'ke Oweenge. Headquarters of the Eight Northern Indian Pueblos Council. Home of the August 1680 Pueblo revolt. Feast Day June 24.
Santa Ana Pueblo NM 87004 - Keres speakers: tamaya. Photography and sketching prohibited at pueblo. Feast Day July 26
Santa Clara Pueblo, Española NM 87532 - Tewa speakers: kha-po. 1550. Originally inhabited Puyé Cliff Dwellings on Santa Clara Canyon.
Santo Domingo Pueblo NM 87052 - Keres speakers: khe-wah. Known for turquoise work. Feast Day August 4; Corn Dance.
Taos Pueblo NM 87571 - Tiwa speakers: tua-tah. World Heritage Site. U.S. National Historic Site. Feast Day September 30. Photography and sketching $20. Commercial work requires advance approval.
Tesuque Pueblo - Tewa speakers: Originally named Te Tesugeh Oweengeh 1200. National Register of Historic Places. Pueblo closed to public. Camel Rock Casino and Camel Rock Suites as well as the actual Camel Rock are open.
Zia Pueblo NM 87053-6013 - Keres speakers: zia. New Mexico's State Flag uses the Zia symbol. Feast Day August 15
Zuni Pueblo NM 87327 - Zuni speakers. First visited 1540 by Spanish. Mission 1629

In 1924 these peoples were granted US citizenship. In 1948, they were granted the right to vote in New Mexico.