User talk:Amazon1
Please stop. If you continue spamming Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing.--Yankees76 (talk) 21:07, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Regarding your comments on User talk:Piano non troppo: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.--Quartet 21:15, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Edit crossing
[edit]Woah! Hold on! I didn't change anything, except to write one single answer to you on my Discussion page. Somebody else did something...
You wrote this, but somebody deleted it so fast, I hardly saw it:
"Oh, shit! Is that a link on the very top the girlgrip.co.uk link just below mine that you keep deleting? And where does it go? It goes to their page where they are selling 5 minute videos for $5. I'm not sure what your head is. So, let's hear it."
You also wrote:
"Oh, my God! Is that a link on the very top the girlgrip.co.uk link just below mine that you keep deleting? And where does it go? It goes to their page where they are selling 5 minute videos for $5. I'm not sure where your head is. I added the External links section to that page, and added my link, which is relevant to the topic. However, my link gets deleted, and some link that leads DIRECTLY to a commercial site that is selling video, stands in it's place. How do and your friends explain your actions?"
I haven't deleted any links -- that was somebody else. Please tell me what Wiki article the girlgrip.co.uk link is on...
But totally apart from that...the way to go for you here is to read the articles and contribute your point of view (hopefully, with reliable sources, but that's extra.) That gets you totally out of all this.
Piano non troppo (talk) 11:36, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Your recent edits
[edit]Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. If you can't type the tilde character, you should click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 12:08, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Personal Attacks - Final Warning
[edit]This is your last warning. If you continue to make personal attacks, as you did at User talk:Piano non troppo, you will be blocked for disruption. --Quartet 15:54, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Personal Attacks - Final Warning
[edit]Quartet, please outline an instance of personal attack in my writing on Piano's talk page. I didn't call Yankee and asshole, refer to his religion, his race, and I didn't threaten him. So, what is your problem? You just didn't like what I wrote. Well, too bad for you. But I didn't launch a personal attack. I did call him a jerk-off, this much is true. But that's not really a horrific instance of an insult, and whats more, he deserved it. He insulted me and my work. And if I were in your position, I wouldn't be defending my friend and threatening me. I would be talking to my friend about being an instigator and insulting others here. Frankly, I could care less about what you THINK, and much less about your threat; big WikiCop or not.
- A personal attack is not limited to name calling. Insulting or disparaging an editor is a personal attack regardless of the manner in which it is done. I asked you politely to stay cool (see above) after this edit [1]. You continued to engage in uncivil behaviour afterwards, which means you either did not see my warning, or you did see my warning and decided to ignore it. Either way the mode with which you've been operating here is not acceptable, regardless of what you think someone said about you or your work (I fail to see any such attacks - unless you think Yankees comparison of deleting a link without bias to taking the trash to the curb to be an insult, and if that's true, I think you're making a mountain out of an ant hill).
The problem with a lot of moderators is that you aren't fair. (I use the word "moderators" as a catch-all term, to cover the many titles being bestowed upon the likes of you by this website.) You criticize me, but you don't criticize your fellow WikiCops when they are wrong. Don't you have any sense of true fairness, or are you just like a real cop who likes to use their power over people and threaten them. Though your power is quite different from that of the average cop in the streets, you equally suffer from the same sociopathic behavior. You are granted a little bit of power and RESPONSIBILITY to moderate this site, and you use it with a stinking smell of entitlement and arrogance, instead of being a good person and showing fairness and understanding.
- Let me make a couple of things clear. I'm not an administrator, a "moderator" or whatever title you've tagged people on this site. I make that fact plainly visible on my talk page. I don't pretend to have any "powers" and make no claims of responsibility. You just assumed that because I took offense to your treatment of others. In fact it's perfectly normal for any user of Wikipedia to place a legitimate warning on another users talk page when they feel it is warranted (such as in this case) - they don't have to be a moderator - just a good citizen who stands up to incivility. Generally I do it so that the individual being warned is aware that they are on the wrong path and should correct their actions before situation like this esclates and leads to blocks for disruption. Your case was fairly cut and dry and I felt that the reasoning behind the removal of the links to your website were more than adequately explained and the rationale and guidelines were well linked and displayed to you. Neither Piano non troppo nor Yankees76 have done anything wrong in my eyes and neither warranted the uncivil way with which you treated either of them. If you feel differently, you could take the path of dispute resolution, as opposed to continueing to attack others.
You are the one who is supposed to know the difference between reacting in a way that will further inflame tensions and acting in a way that will allow the situation to simmer. And just as you have demonstrated here, You chose the former instead of the latter. Instead of leaving the situation alone, you simply make it worse. I wouldn't even be writing this if it weren't for your threatening me with, what, blocking me?
- Why do you assume that it is everyone elses responsibility to ensure they don't react in a way that will tick you off? What reasonable actions did you take to diffuse the situation? This?[2] If anything that edit was an attempt to further escelate the sitation, and I removed it quickly with the hopes that other individuals would not notice and take the situation outside of Wikipedia. But what of the next user who undoes one of your edits or removes another link of yours? Are you going to behave in a similar fashion? Remember, your site is fairly visible - as is your personal information. It was important that you were made aware of the fact that your behaviour in this instance isn't tolerated with the hopes that you would cool it before it was taken too far.
Who cares? Block me. I'm not here to make friends and write mindless nonsense on these talk pages. I have enough of friends already, thanks, and better things to do with my time. I'm here to read, not to get into it with people like you. The only reason I ended up writing, is because of the way I was treated. And if you think that, like a cop, you can treat someone anyway you please and that they will not react, you might want to get that checked by a professional.
The original issue reference the external links has been completely lost. This entire series of back-and-forth writing has come about because you and your colleagues cannot, by your own admission (Yankee's admission) apply the rules in a fair and equitable manner (beginning with the episode about external links). But now you turn to threatening me, instead of finding something constructive to do.
- I never made any such statement. Why are you applying what others have said to me? Again, you're making assumptions without facts. Because a few of us agreed on what the external link guideline says with regards to links to your website and how they do not belong in an encyclopedia, does not make us a hive collective with one singular thought. I will admit there is alot of spam on Wikipedia and I've been doing my best to remove some of it in my spare time, but because there is already spam on the site, does not make it okay for you to add more.
I'm sorry Quartet, but you are not a fair person, which brings into question your intellect, and your psychological state. And that is not meant as a personal attack. I don't know if you have a documented mental disability or are on medication. But your behavior calls your mental state into question.
- I don't beleive that because I did not take any one individuals side in this dispute that I'm being unfair or am not a fair person. I'm simply following established guidelines and policies as to what content is acceptable here and what is not. If that makes it seem like I'm not on your side, then so be it. If your link had been acceptable I would have said it was, and defended it with the same vigor.
Think about it; if you just would stop writing to me, I'd stop having to write back. Full stop. End of story. Leave it at that. Now, please, drop this topic, bugger off, and leave me alone. I'm tired of having to answer all of your stupid statements and threats, and retort your harassment. I don't want to talk to you. Can't you understand that?
Now, PISS OFF.
- I hope that after your block expires you can learn to work with others in a calm and civil manner, and accept that your edits to Wikipedia could be undone and/or challenged by anyone in the world. I also hope that you take some of the advice and yes, warnings, from other, more established members here a little more seriously. Getting to know the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia will give you a little better insight as to why things happen here and how to work best with others. I hope you'll act with a little more tact and restraint when a situation like this arises again - regardless of who the other individual is who contacts you, warns you or writes you. I'm sure you have wealth of great information and content that you could add to this project. If you need help with anything, feel free to ask. --Quartet 18:40, 23 September 2008 (UTC)