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On 8 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Fersommling, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Battle of Hubbardton

Hi. Please come and join the dissussion about the Battle of Hubbardton. I see you have also had a few disagreements with Tripsjohnson, although I am sure mine far surpass you. Anyways you are welcome to join the disscussion and throw you thoughts into it. (Red4tribe (talk) 20:02, 13 May 2008 (UTC))

Done. Please see Talk: Battle of Hubbardton for my response. Alphageekpa (talk) 17:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

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Air Products

I looked into this the other day, because historically, APCI used Trexlertown, and that's where it is geographically. But I couldn't find any citation for Trexlertown, and the company uses Allentown as its address. That makes this a sticky issue. Locals would prefer Trexlertown, the company apparently doesn't and the rest of the world will get confused. I'm curious as to how this plays out, because of the COI we all have by being so close to our subject. Best. Allreet (talk) 21:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

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Liberty Bell

I wouldn't really call it a "belief" that the large crack running down the bell is, in fact, a large crack in the bell. "Contrary to popular belief" is a good encyclopedic turn of phrase, but in terms of being simply descriptive, I think "appearances" is a better choice. By the way, that whole sentence seems a little fishy to me; it seems to imply the crevice was deliberately created to fix some invisible crack. Feezo (Talk) 16:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Changed to "contrary to appearances." Alphageekpa (talk) 17:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

British casualties by war

Hello, I just wanted to enquire if there is a list of British casualties by war as there is for the US army.

Thanks, Inchiquin. Inchiquin (talk) 11:51, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Lehigh County Historical Society

Thanks for the update on your Lehigh County Historical Society article. Like everything you seem to do on here, I thought it was exceptionally well done. PAWiki (talk) 00:04, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Allentown Minor League History

Thanks for splitting the baseball section from the main Allentown article. I saw the notice about the need to do this (on the LV Project page?), but found Wikipedia's directions somewhat confusing, so I didn't attempt it myself.

As an aside, I'm curious about the notice at the top of the new article requesting "cleanup." Stylistically, there are always improvements that can be made, but compared to many other articles on local subjects, the content is concise, and every statement is sourced. So the question is, what doesn't meet Wiki standards? An explanation would be very helpful for future work. Thanks.Allreet (talk) 19:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the very helpful response on my Talk page. I'll add an intro para and subheads as you suggested. I'll probably also tweak the revised section in the main article to better bridge the past and present.Allreet (talk) 17:14, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Spam link?

Did you really think that was a spam link? It's not promoting a product or service, and VU is a member. I didn't see anything wrong with it. Dppowell (talk) 21:01, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. I looked at editor's history and saw same statement being repeatedly posted across the articles of a number of colleges and universities. Appears to be promotion of some sort. However, I've reverted my deletion for the time being. Alphageekpa (talk) 21:37, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Stoners box

PAThis user reminisces of the Pennsylvania Stoners.

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Fersommling: nothing is simple

Hi, Alphageekpa! In researching the development of the Grundsow Lodge for the link in the Fersommling article, I came across a few wrinkles:

• The depiction of the meeting at William Troxell's as a Fersommling seems odd because apparently only four people attended, the Illuminati of local Pennsylvania Dutch-dom.
• The purpose of the meeting was to plan the first Grundsow Lodge, and a Fersommling was held a few weeks later at Keystone Trail Inn in Allentown as an organizational meeting. If so, Fersommlinge didn't evolve into Grundsow Lodges but were used in getting the Lodge movement rolling.
• The initial impetus for all this (Fersommlinge and Grundsow Lodges) may have been to promote Pennsylvania Dutch culture in response to the anti-German sentiment that followed World War I. For one, this explains the significance of singing a patriotic song, but it also adds a serious overtone to the general frivolity.

The sources I found aren't great, but they seem generally reliable:

• Richard K. Miller in a piece on the development of Grundsow Lodges for the Pennsylvania German Cultural Heritage Center.[[1]]
• Col. Leonard Shupp in a Heritage Center News article.[[2]]
• Don Yoder in the book Groundhog Day.[[3]]

To tell you the truth, I really don't know what to do with this information. I tried weaving the stories together but ran into snags regarding the nature of the first Fersommling at Dr. Woodruff's, how the meeting at Troxell's is considered the second Fersommling and how Fersommelinge spread. I suspect Pumpernickel Bill's column was at least partially instrumental on this last count, but sorting that out would take a translator, plus a couple days poring over microfiche. Any thoughts?Allreet (talk) 05:05, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

I reorganized the article a bit and added info addressing some of the above. Though I don't have access to your reference and hence don't know anything about the Woodruff gathering, I have a suspicion that the figures here "cooked" some of the history, possibly for bragging rights. I don't mean they did so nefariously, but this typically happens with local history, as in the transport of the Liberty Bell to Allentown. Word is that descendants of the Leasers and Mickleys agreed to share credit for different legs of the journey to settle a dispute on whose wagon was used. Allreet (talk) 17:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

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Crooked Billet Page

My apologies and I hope no offense was taken. While I noticed discussion amongst the pages, it was unclear to me the original creator of the article. The first revision of the article was in such great quality (awesome job!) that I mistook it for being the copy, not the copied. Go get those Genealogy people and get them to give due credit to a very well written piece Splat215 (talk) 18:52, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

No offense taken. ;-) Alphageekpa (talk) 20:43, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

George Taylor

I just finished a new article on George Taylor, which had been a stub, and would appreciate your feedback. Also, I have an image I'd like to add, an illustration of Durham Furnace published in the 1800's. but I'm not sure how to upload it to the Commons. It's funny how this article started. I was adding descriptions to the LC Historical Society article, and in looking for information on the Taylor House, I found that there weren't any coherent histories of Taylor himself, plus lots of errors in what was available. Two weeks later...

In the midst of this, I found the Historical Society is considering selling the Taylor House to the borough of Catasauqua. Apparently, the house is a burden to maintain and doesn't draw many visitors. On the one hand, that's a shame. On the other, such a treasurer doesn't belong in the hands of a small municipal government. Ironically, that's exactly what the Call said recently about the Bachman Publick House in Easton, that it's not the county's mission to maintain historic properties. What also struck me was that in the debate over the sale of the house, some officials denigrated Taylor as a second-rate figure. Imagine that. Anyway, we'll see how it all turns out. Thanks. Allreet (talk) 12:46, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, AGPA! How do you request the removal of stub status? The articles in question are George Taylor (delegate) and George Taylor House. Thanks. Allreet (talk) 07:22, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Done! Excellent work, both articles are now significantly improved! Alphageekpa (talk) 11:11, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Allentown Fair

I added a postcard shot of the Race Track from 1905. I'm really uncertain of its pedigree. The copyright on the front is 1905, so I'm sure it would be in public domain in that regard. What I'm not sure about is the source. It was from a postcard dealer's website. Which one I don't know and apparently the image is no longer available. The question is, is there any possibility of a copyright problem? If so, feel free to remove it (or if you feel some other image would be more representative). And thanks for removing stub status from the Taylors as well as for the compliment. Allreet (talk) 20:41, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

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Trout Hall

Here's an article [[4]] I thought you'd enjoy. (I just tested the link, and it's slow but it does work.) The article covers most information needed for a detailed profile on Trout Hall and answers a lot of things I've often wondered about, such as the cause of James Allen's death and the final fate of the family's fortune. The author is not identified, but the article does indicate that he or she works or worked for the Historical Society.*

Something like this saves an incredible amount of fishing. As far as I can tell, it's very accurate, though not necessarily perfect. For example, Trout Hall may not have been taken over by the Society until 1909, rather than 1908—according to minutes in the 1910 Proceedings, negotiations were still underway with the Parks Commission in 1909. There's also the uncertainty as to whether William Allen's cabin was near Central Catholic, as indicated in the article (and my belief), or the current house, as cited by some otherwise solid sources.

This points to one of the problems with single sources. Generally, to avoid reiterating past errors, I try to find two reliable sources on a fact (though I'll cite only one). And I'll only settle on one source if it's airtight on everything else and there's no other alternative. Therefore, my approach would be to try to verify what's reported here against other sources and at the same time, flesh out other facts. Anyway, feel free to use as you wish. Cheers. Allreet (talk) 17:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

• After looking through similar posts on Lifestyles Over 50, I believe the article may have been written by Frank Whelan. Allreet (talk) 19:27, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Egypt

Good stuff! This past weekend, my wife and I were researching our house, which happens to be on the edge of the village, and we both found the article interesting and helpful. I also came across a couple accounts of the origins of the village's name. Most stick with the idea that this particular corner of present-day Lehigh County was "as fertile as the land of Egypt" (or something like that), though one source seems to indicate that the name was originally applied to a much larger part of the region. I'll have to sort that out, but I thought I'd pass on how pleased we were with what you added. Allreet (talk) 22:08, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Allreet. See your talk page for my reply! Alphageekpa (talk) 09:20, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Of course Peters/Rinker came up in our research. Well, I'll be! A small world it is. Allreet (talk) 15:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Me again. It's even smaller than I thought. Our house was once owned by a Ringer, though we're having some trouble pinning down the construction date (circa early 1800s?). I don't really want to say much more here, other than "simply amazing." That, and thanks for adding the origin of the name. Allreet (talk) 19:37, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

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Villanova University

Your recent removal of the "Pop culture" section of Villanova University has been reverted. Would you please check WP:TRIVIA#What this guideline is not, which does not justify removing text. To improve the article, perhaps you can find a way to incorporate this text into the main body text, as suggested by WP:TRIVIA#Guidance. Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 23:02, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

See my comments by me, and other editors, on talk page of article regarding this matter. Also check the archives, as this had previously been discussed and consensus reached. I certainly don't mind revisiting, however a reversion of text deleted a year ago, when consensus for removal had been reached at that time, warrants deletion, since no explanation as to it's restatement was made. Alphageekpa (talk) 09:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Nice job

Very nice job, as usual, with the Allentown Fair article. It's very well done. PAWiki (talk) 05:59, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank You!!!

Thank you so much for fixing that "Chicken Wings" edit so quickly! I am a APUSH teacher from Maryland and I just used that as a demonstration of how quickly wikipedia articles get fixed. You just showed 22 11th graders the true power of wikipedia. They were all so excited to see that within 11 minutes a small vandalism was fixed. Here at this school we have a lot of people who really frown upon the use of wikipedia. I think it is an excellent source to fulfill a students curiousity. It is not quite perfect for historical research. But when your curious and you need it, it is there. Thanks again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wraybm1 (talk • contribs) 12:02, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Heh. My pleasure! Alphageekpa (talk) 20:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

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What?

Please explain how you could even consider a NASCAR driver for speedy deletion? NASCAR is the most well-known stock car racing series in the world. How did someone agree with you and delete the Tighe Scott article? Royalbroil 04:21, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

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Allentown

I am not sure how to use the communication tools you cite. I am new to Wiki. I apologize if I disrupted the group and do respect your efforts and thanks to you, I have a better understanding of how to try to make edits (I am still not sure how to contact this group" I had met with Mayor Pawlowski earlier in the week and he expressed concern that the Wikipedia entry was not representing Allentown in a good light. After reading it, I do agree that some of the items written are skewed. I and he understand that Wikipedia is not intended to be a media/propaganda platform for the city. However, I also think that the facts can be presented in more of a neutral way. For example:

You used a photo of delapidated buildings rather than the photo I posted which shows the modern skyline.

You post Dorny park, which is "near" Allentown but you delete "DeSales University", formally "Allentown College".

You lead the Economy section with "While many of Allentown's major industrial businesses have disappeared over the past two decades" rather than leading with the actual business that are here.

You present crime statisics than can be misleading. Not sure how you verify the thae MR13 has a "stronghold". That seems like an opinion

Please understand that I am not looking to argue. Writing like this can sometimes be misintrepted. Please do not do that. Again, I repsect your group and the work you do and wish to reach out to start a dialogue.

Would you and your editorial team be willing to meet with the Mayor to discuss this?

Regards,

John Russo Russojar (talk) 13:29, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Russojar - You are welcome to edit and improve this article within Wikipedia guidelines. However, your deletion of sections is not an appropriate action. Wikipedia is not a PR tool. The goal is to provide an encyclopedic article from a neutral perspective. You, or anyone else, is welcome to edit the article and help us improve the entry. Other editors, myself included, may (and will) edit these contributions as we see fit. This is to be expected. And other users are just as welcome to edit our entries. Wikipedia is a community effort, and we resolve issues and conflicts that arise as a result of editing thru discussions on each article's talk page. Regarding your other issues: 1) I agree, the new photograph is an improvement; 2) the article is about Allentown, not the region (see Lehigh County or Lehigh Valley for that). Dorney Park has a mailing address in Allentown, and is located immediately outside of the city limits. Allentown College/Desales is not located in Allentown; 3) the introductory sentence in "Economy" is valid. Allentown HAS and IS losing its manufacturing base. That cannot be ignored. In the 19th and early 20th century, Allentown was a manufacturing powerhouse. You cannot argue that it maintains this distinction - it has been unable to retain those businesses; 4) I'll concede that the Crime section can use work. Alphageekpa (talk) 14:09, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

AlphageekPA

This is the third time you have made the point about deleting the section. I got it. I won't do that. What else do you need? I am look to move past this and discuss improvements.

I still do not agree with your opening line of the economy. My point is that we should lead with what the economy of Allentown IS rather than a one-side editorial about history. I'd rather see something like "The Economy has Shifted from a strong manufacturing base to whatever"

or "While many business have disappeared, they have been replaced by"

There are too many people in Allentown living in the past and lamenting of how it used to be. Put that in the history section. I think the Economy section should be about what is happening now.

We should add info about the influx of Independent Film Makers.

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Russojar (talk) 16:12, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Rather than discussing these issues on my personal talk page, I'd recommend that you do so on the Allentown talk page so that other Wikipedia readers/editors/viewers may participate in the conversation. Please remember that these are not necessarily "my" words. I am one of a number of editors and writers than actively contribute to, and monitor, this particular article. Alphageekpa (talk) 18:17, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good. You should do the same.Russojar (talk) 14:41, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hey, thank you for adding the information on the Alpha Video release of Dirty Gertie from Harlem U.S.A. to the article I started on that famous film. I am a big fan of Alpha Video -- feel free to call on me if you ever need help in expanding coverage of that company and its releases. Cheers! Ecoleetage (talk) 21:57, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

PS I just created a stub for Sepia Cinderella -- I didn't like to see a redlink in the Dirty Gertie article. Ecoleetage (talk) 22:22, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Pennsylvania Shakespeare Festival

Thank you for adding the categories.Russojar (talk) 21:56, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

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