User talk:Alotofsunshine

Hi, I am brand new to this and need some guidance. Would like to be able to add verifiable information regarding musician Stevie Roseman and his contributions to the rock band Journey.

He played keyboards on the lone studio track "The Party's Over (Hopelessly In Love) from the 1981 album "Captured" reissued 10/03/06 on Columbia/Legacy CD #82876 85896 2. His credit listing in on insert page 15 line 8.

This same track also appears on the reissued 3 CD set called Journey Time3 Columbia #C3K 96419. His credit listing is on insert pages 11 thru 14.

How is this done correctly? I have additional data to hopefully improve the accuracy of information on one the worlds best know bands!

Thank you in advance,

alotofsunshineAlotofsunshine (talk) 09:25, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi,

So far the Journey page doesn't list musicians who contributed only one song in the studio or joined the band on stage for one concert. The last time I recall this coming up was a few months ago when someone insisted that singer Michael Bolton was a former member of Journey. It turned out that Bolton did sing with two members of Journey at a tribute, but that did not make him a former member of the band.

The issue with Roseman is somewhat different in that as far as I can tell, no one is claiming that he is a former member. In that sense he is similar to the one or two studio players who worked with Journey on one or two tracks of the Raised on Radio album. I know the article includes Mike Baird, Bob Glaub, and Randy Jackson; perhaps the case could be made that Roseman contributed to Journey on that level, which in my opinion would be grounds for inclusion.

Stylistically, the way to add verifiable facts to a Wikipedia article is to be as concise as possible and to integrate the new text fully with the existing text.

I'm moving this conversation to the Journey discussion page. The article (along with everything else in Wikipedia) is collaborative; sounder minds than mine may have thoughts on this.

Dave Golland (talk) 14:31, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Dave, thanks for the reply. You are correct in stating Mr. Roseman was not a "former member" of the band and definitely not claiming he was. Being however only the third keyboard player in the band's history that actually recorded a studio track rather than sitting in at some point like Michael Bolton I agree should be grounds for inclusion, not necessarily trivial. I would cite your references to Mike Baird, Bob Glaub, Randy Jackson as pertinent. Where in the Journey article do you personally think this mention may be appropriate? I had previously attempted a post (my first try) within 1977 - 1980 as a tag directly after your reference to album Captured. You mentioned it may be too wordy and I did edit to have appear sparse and simply informative.

alotofsunshine(Alotofsunshine (talk) 02:23, 30 June 2008 (UTC))