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Alternate names in highway infoboxes

Unless an alternate name applies to the entire highway, we don't list it in the infobox. Not all of M-10 is the Lodge Freeway, for example, so that name does not belong in the infobox. The northern and southern ends of M-3 are on different streets, so Gratiot Avenue does not belong in the infobox like that. Imzadi 1979 → 01:12, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

So the northern end is on a different street? This is news to me. I knew about the southern end Alex9234 (talk) 01:14, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes, M-3 turns off Gratiot Avenue onto 23 Mile Road to connect to I-94. Gratiot Avenue itself continues northeasterly to Marysville. Between New Haven and Richmond, it carries part of M-19.

As a side note, please WP:INDENT your replies underneath other comments on talk pages. Imzadi 1979 → 01:24, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Highway graphics in city infoboxes

There has not been a consensus to graphics like that to the infoboxes in city articles. In fact, in recent discussions on the issue, consensus was to remove mentions of highways from city infoboxes. Using marker graphics as links is also quite problematic because it turns those graphics into Easter egg links. Imzadi 1979 → 01:27, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

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I was considering adding that image for the US 27 page for many years though I wasn't sure how to do it. I think it would work for the article considering it is likely the only photo you can find of US 27 in the UP. At least as far as I'm concerned. Other than that, is there any other way that photo or a similar one like it could be added? I'm not sure if the photo is really supposed to be public domain or what, so I really don't know what to do. Alex9234 (talk) 03:46, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

If you aren't 100% certain an image is in the public domain or if you, yourself, don't have the copyright or the permission of the copyright holder to reproduce or upload an image, then the safest bet is to just not do it. As a person who has had many of my own works (photos, maps, articles, etc.) stolen and plastered all over the Internet and Wikipedia, I really don't appreciate people taking my own hard work and throwing it where ever they please. Often times, people expend great amounts of time, energy and MONEY when creating the works they decide to share online and if people keep stealing them and uploading them elsewhere, you're going to find less and less of those works online in the long run. Yes, it can be somewhat frustrating when you have to make 100% sure—or 150% sure, if you want my honest opinion—that something is in the public domain or is otherwise freely reproducible before you use it somewhere like Wikipedia or your own website, but that's the way it goes. As a content generator myself, I would definitely appreciate it if you would take the time to understand how copyright works and what "public domain" truly means. CBessert (talk) 10:03, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

AD Police Move

Please move back A.D. Police to AD Police. It's the right title. Yes the names are inconsistent within the series but it's not Wikipedia's role to fix that, thanks. -Daveout(talk) 04:46, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

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Replaceable fair use File:US45MIBorder.jpg

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Hmm…do you think I should upload it as a free media file? I mean, the site I found it on has been out of commission for quite some time. Maybe it could potentially qualify as public domain? I don’t know, you’d probably know more about that than I would. I’m no expert on this subject. Alex9234 (talk) 18:39, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

No, it would not qualify as public domain. Assume that all images found online are subject to copyright unless they have an explicit license listed or other details are explicitly listed to indicate that it is public domain. Abandoning a website does not remove copyright. It would be no different than finding a photo in an old book that's out of print: copyright still attached to the publication. Photos would have copyright for 95 years from first publication, and after 1989, a copyright notice or registration is not required for protection to attach. (There are ways that photos published before 1989 or 1978 would not have had copyright attached and immediately fallen into the public domain, but that's not going to apply in this case.)

As for the specific photo here: someone could drive to that location and take a new photo and upload it under a compatible license. The fact that MDOT has changed state line welcome sign designs is not enough to warrant using a copyright-protected photo in a highway article. You might be able to make a case for using a photo of the older signage in a different article that explicitly is discussing the signage; for this article though it's just an illustration of a location on the highway and not the subject of critical commentary or another standard reason for fair use on Wikipedia. For that reason, this photo is replaceable. Per our policies, we cannot use replaceable copyright-protected media under fair use, period.

There are similar issues with all of the other recent uploads of yours.

• The US 33 marker images are complicated, but the presence of File:US 33 Michigan 1948.svg means we don't need to have a copyright-encumbered photo of a public domain design. The SVG is better quality to illustrate the design anyway. The image isn't even "proof" that US 33 entered the state; old MSHD maps prove that, and pre-1958 those maps are public domain. I've used sections or insets of several old state maps as illustrations in articles.
• The US 27 photo in Grayling isn't needed because we could use a current photo of that location to illustrate it.
  • I did something similar in U.S. Route 33 in Michigan, using a photo of M-63 and A-2 to depict the location of the northern end of US 33. In that case, the modern signage doesn't impact the purpose of the photo.
  • You might be able to contact the photographer for that image though and get permission to use it under an appropriate license. That's preferable to trying fair use. We got permission to use an older photo of M-87 in Fenton in part because the photographer was so impressed with the article on that former highway. He allowed us to use the photo under license, and it's in the article. We might be able to do the same here, and who knows, maybe even a better version of the photo.
• The US 27 sunset photo in St. Ignace is a little different. In a sense, that photo is also replaceable for the same reason as the Grayling image. I agree that it's a good photo, and I'd love to see it or similar in use. We don't have enough historical photos of that sort for use on Wikipedia, but we still have to follow the rules.
  • That specific image may be from an old post card per Michigan Highways. If so, the next question is if the postcard has a copyright notice. File:M-28 & M-178.jpg comes from an old postcard that lacked a copyright notice, which means its a public domain image. So if that sunset image is a postcard without a notice, it too would be public domain. (And if so, the file on Michigan Highways is better quality.)
  • That page of photos on Michigan Highways also offers another option. There are two versions of a different photo showing that same location in 1958 or 1959. Those photos are in the Mackinac Bridge Authority Archives. If someone were to ask the MBA for permission, it might be granted. I've received public domain dedications for a number of MDOT images over the years. It's also possible those images were published before in books that lacked a copyright notice. That's how a few old photos entered the public domain.

Sorry to be so long-winded here, but the key take-away is that fair-use is a last resort, and I think you found pretty pictures online that you like and want to use without working through the other steps first and severely short-cutting the fair-use analysis. Imzadi 1979 → 20:47, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

I made my previous reply to a comment of yours above before I scrolled down and noticed Imazdi1979's very well-stated and very detailed explanation here. (Mine was more of a mini-rant, so I'll take my hat off to Imazdi1979 for taking the time to thoroughly explain the situation to you rather than just complain like I did...) But just to add to what has already been said here: I, indeed, did ask the Mackinac Bridge Authority for permission to use those photos. I'm in the somewhat enviable position of having quite a few personal "inside" contacts at MDOT, the Federal Highway Administration (Michigan Division), quite a few County Road Commissions and other road agencies and transportation planning agencies around the state. In some cases, materials have been sent to me for inclusion on my website, as agencies like MDOT, for example, don't have the time, resources or wherewithal to delve into the historical aspects of the highway system in Michigan like I do. They regularly send people to my site for answers to historical questions and, accordingly, have welcomed me putting information, maps and photos on my site that they've provided me over the years. Unfortunately, I have a sh*t-ton of info, photos and maps that have been sitting here waiting for me to find the time to get them onto my site, but a wife, two kids and a full time job haven't helped in that regard.

So, anyway, I either ask for permission (if I'm not explicitly granted it already, as I noted above) or I doubly-ensure the materials are not copyright protected before I put them onto my website. Here's an example of a photo I didn't take but got permission to use on my site: http://www.michiganhighways.org/indepth/US-23_sunriseside.html . I included a copyright statement for the original photographer, too. Now look closely at the ends of each of the captions below the photos on this page: http://www.michiganhighways.org/photos/m-231/bikeride/index.html . Sure, anymore we don't have to go out, buy actual rolls of film, load them into SLRs, take the photos, then take the film in, pay to have it developed, see if any of the pictures turned out, if any did, scan in the good ones, then upload them... but that doesn't change what a "content creator" does and most of us like to protect our work. Most of us will also allow people to use our work, too, for many purposes, if they ask us nicely. I've granted many requests over the years to many people, webmasters, kids doing school reports, and even newspapers needing graphics for news stories. And take a look at who contributed this to Wikipedia a lifetime ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_left#/media/File:MichiganLeftSigns.png . So, please take what Imazdi1979 said to heart and do what we ALL did at one point: learn about the fun and exciting world of copyright and public domain... or, if not, just leave the inserting of images in Wikipedia articles to others if not. Thanks! CBessert (talk) 10:25, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

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Duplicative articles

Creating these MB post season articles duplicates information which is already in our articles. i.e. ;;This is duplicative. See target article for an example - 1971 Major League Baseball season Bruxton (talk) 00:32, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, but I was wondering if we could give the MLB playoffs their own separate articles like the NBA, NFL, and NHL playoffs. I feel that this would be easier to find than going to the MLB season articles. There are no article series on here that cover the MLB playoffs like the NBA, NFL and NHL ones. So why this needs to be deleted makes no sense to me, unless I need permission to create that series. Alex9234 (talk) 00:40, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Seems like a Wikipedia:REDUNDANTFORK. You can remove the prod and state why on the talk page of the article. I will let other editors decide. Bruxton (talk) 00:51, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Well, I left my reason on the talk page. I'll leave the prod up just in case. Alex9234 (talk) 01:06, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

You should def remove it. It is a contested PROD. Bruxton (talk) 01:29, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

If you say so, I just don’t want to get in trouble is all. Alex9234 (talk) 01:32, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Made an MLB Postseason Navbar for you

Hey @Alex9234, I see you like baseball, I also like baseball. I threw together a navigation template for your articles. I basically just copied it from the NBA playoff template. Feel free to mess around with it and make it useful for your articles. As a life long Giants fan I just hope you're not a Dodgers fan! Dr vulpes ^{(💬 • 📝)} 05:28, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

I’ll check it out later, thanks. Alex9234 (talk) 05:38, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

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I think I posted the attribution correctly, not sure about how to hide it in the text Alex9234 (talk) 17:23, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, but the statement belongs in the edit summary, not the article itself. For example, see the edit summary of this diff where I have already added the attribution for you, for this article. So you don't need to worry about this article, this is just a note for any future instances of copying. Let me know if you have any questions. DanCherek (talk) 17:26, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Oh, that was for the NLCS part. I actually found the source for that on Google myself, I actually had no idea it was present in the Sign stealing article. Alex9234 (talk) 17:30, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

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Hi Alex9234! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor at 1974 Major League Baseball postseason that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. Nagol0929 (talk) 01:31, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

I'll try to remember that from now on. Alex9234 (talk) 01:34, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

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College football consensus v. unanimous champions

Hi Alex9234, Just wanted to let you know that GBFlyer is continuing to ignore your talk page message and revert pages to saying consensus rather than unanimous. I reverted their edit on 2018 Clemson Tigers football team but they reverted it again. In order to avoid an edit war, I figured I'd let you know since you left the message on GBFlyer's talk page. Not sure what the appropriate next steps might be.

Thanks, Swimmer33 (talk) 21:19, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Nah, it’s okay. I think the original editors here had them at Consensus anyway, so I was going to change them back. Alex9234 (talk) 22:53, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Swimmer33, Alex9234: you both may want to weigh in at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football#Unanimous national champs. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 01:50, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

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Indeed. Friendly piece of advice, unfounded accusations of vandalism often have a boomerang effect on editors that throw them around. It would be best to stop while you're ahead. Philipnelson99 (talk) 01:05, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Well, I guess I'll provide some context: The user apparently took issue with me making legitimate edits and accusing me of being disruptive and violating WP:MOS. In my opinion the user isn't following WP:CIVIL and his behavior is very close to WP:OWN. He never presented a valid reason for reverting my edits, appears unable to explain why my edits violated WP:MOS, and is doing the opposite of assuming good faith.

I've contributed to many articles and even created a ton of articles, but I never ran into a situation like this until today.

I've also made lots of edits that other users had no issue with, but when it comes to NHL-related articles, the users there keep reverting my edits without explanation. Many of the NHL editors on Wikipedia appear to be incredibly picky and revert any edit without warning, even if it's legitimate. I really don't like the micromanaging they do. I only seem to encounter this problem whenever editing NHL articles.

I'd appreciate it if the user provided a good explanation and not just reverted edits for no reason.

That's my side of the story. Alex9234 (talk) 01:10, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

I would too. And you could absolutely take this to WP:ANI or another dispute resolution forum. But the issues you bring up don't meet the narrow definition of vandalism. Philipnelson99 (talk) 01:15, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Well, I've recently assisted with other users who have been having trouble with Vandalism and edit warring as of late, so I just assumed it was vandalism. There was a lot of edit warring and vandalism going on in the 2023 Michigan Wolverines football team article when Michigan won the national title a few months ago, a bunch of what appeared to be Ohio State, Michigan State, and Notre Dame fans appeared to be vandalizing that article and other articles regarding Michigan football, and I've been helping some users track down and stop this from happening as much as possible. It got really out of hand in January and February.

That's one matter I'm trying to help resolve. Alex9234 (talk) 01:22, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

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