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ANI discussion

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FYI, I have opened an ANI report on Radiant Fellow. You are welcome to comment there, but in your own best interest, given the continued disconnect you have with WP's internal culture, I would advise against it unless another editor specifically pings you in the discussion for comment. I could just leave it at that, but to address your concerns of "doing nothing", it must be noted that one simply cannot openly accuse someone of misconduct without evidence, and that evidence has to objectively apply to existing policy. This is one of the areas of disconnect I have been trying to get you to understand - we don't look at these subjectively and call something disruptive or inappropriate just because we don't like it or it "feels" that way. It is only so when held up to the existing standard of policy. Up until this week, that evidence was there (as you have noted), but it was very weak evidence, and primarily subjective. That's difficult to raise as an issue. However, his most recent stealth edit war and subsequent behaviors was adequate for reporting to ANI and it is far more egregious. ButlerBlog (talk) 13:32, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure why you insist on believing I need schooling in regard to Wikipedia culture. My eyes were opened a few years ago as I perused various noticeboards and saw the caste system and tribal workings for what they are. There's a lot of gnat straining before swallowing camels in this place, and it's usually due to favoring or targeting who will benefit an editor or administrator best for what their personal psychological needs of the moment are. The other user's behavior has not been a secret to you, per your conversations with Doug Weller in the past, and long before the user started messing with me. He's been a problem for at least a year. You knew it and chose to sit idly by, especially in the last couple of months. And now here we are. If he had been dealt with appropriately in a more timely manner, based on the behavioral evidence of slow edit warring, playing mind games with me, dishonesty in his edit summaries, being an SPA (not to mention you told me just a few weeks ago that you have always believed he was evading a block), then ANI probably wouldn't be happening today. He needed to be taken to the 3RR noticeboard a while ago and before ANI today. That action probably would have stopped him in his tracks for long enough to get the right message across. Your reason(s) for passive non-action up until now are your own and I'm not going to publicly state what I think they are. Instead, I'll just grab the popcorn and see how the drama plays out. A4M2 Alaska4Me2 (talk) 14:03, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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A "warning" for a total of two edits to the Tim Walz article? My first edit there was a correction of the location of his hometown from "western Nebraska" to "northern Nebraska". The second was a reversion of non-neutral content AND advising that editor to see discussions on this subject at the article talk page that were already happening. That second edit resulted in a discussion with the editor at the talk page where we ended up working together on new wording that was sourced well and removed the POV content.

Obviously, I have no problem with editing appropriately at the article. More importantly, I have little interest in editing it or any political articles at all, hence the reason why I have a grand total of two minor edits there. There's no need for this "reminder" at this editor's talk page, Johnuniq. A4M2 Alaska4Me2 (talk) 00:45, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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How many edits have you made to Talk:Tim Walz? That counts, too. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:37, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

August 2024

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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. ButlerBlog (talk) 18:45, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Casting aspersions

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Information icon Please do not attack other editors. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 07:50, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Alaska4Me2,
Do not go to Butlerblog's User talk page and make unsubstantiated accusations against them. You refuse to accept their explanation that they are doing random maintenance editing and keep trying to turn this into a feud. But it seems like it is completely one-sided on your part. Butlerblog has finally had their fill (I can't blame them) and made a formal complaint against you at ANI so you'll have to make your case there that you are editing neutrally and according to policy and that includes assuming good faith. Liz Read! Talk! 07:57, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]