User talk:Aidepolcycne eerf

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Re: Huh!!!!

Well, this will probably take some explaining, but I'll see if I can clarify for you.

For starters, we'll take a look at anarchism. Anarchism has nothing to do with chaos. Chaos caused by a lack of organisational or political struture is called anomie in the politial arena. Anarchists, on the other hand, favour stateless spontaneous order and willing participation of all individuals. Anarchism originated in the late 1700s, the term anarchist first being used by Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, the mutualist philosopher (mutualism is a form of individualist socialism). He was influential on Karl Marx, Henry David Thoreau, Benjamin Tucker and various others. Shortly after, Mikhail Bakunin advocated collectivist anarchism, a form which promoted social equality more heavily, and people such as Peter Kropotkin promoted anarchist communism. In the mid 1800s, a theory called anarcho-syndicalism was expounded; it, or variations of it, have been the dominant forms of anarchism since.

Socialism, meanwhile, is characterised by the aim towards egalitarian distribution of wealth and resources, achieved by worker ownership (not necessarily collective ownership) of the means of production. Although socialism is most associated with Marxism, it is by no means limited to that form. It is commonly believed by American libertarians that socialism necessitates larger government, but this is also untrue. It is generally the result of a lack of familiarity with socialism. Socialism has existed in various forms, from highly authoritarian to highly anti-authoritarian, since its inception.

In or around the 1950s, Austrian School economist Murray Rothbard first proposed a theory he called anarcho-capitalism. It was a variant of libertarianism, influenced by people such as his contemporary Ayn Rand. Anarchists universally rejected the new "form," but it gained some popularity in the United States when Rothbard founded the Libertarian Party.

On the issue of libertarianism, I'll bring up the name's use so you don't get angry and confused later on. As far as politics goes, the term was first used self-referentially by the French anarchist communist Joseph Déjacque in a letter to Proudhon. Later, during the ban on anarchist publications in France, it was used as a euphemism for anarchism. Following its adoption by Rothbard and his followers in the 50s, the term became much more strongly associated with their philosophy, despite its use for a century by socialist anarchists. Anarchists began using the term libertarian socialism to describe their own ideology, separating themselves wholly from minarchist capitalism. Libertarians, outraged, frequently argue that "there is no such thing as 'libertarian socialism;' it is a contradiction." For two-thirds of its history, the term meant socialism; now it means capitalism and people can become confused if they aren't aware of the word's history. This can lead to lengthy and pointless debates, so I'm just giving you a heads-up.

In America, anarchism has become associated with both "anarcho"-capitalism and anomie more than with actual anarchism. For this reason, to avoid giving people the wrong idea when they read my page, I specify that I am both an anarchist and a socialist, as all true anarchists are.

So as you can see, it is entirely possible to be both an anarchist and a socialist. In fact, it is more feasible than being both an anarchist and a capitalist, which I, like almost all other anarchists, reject. I want neither the controlling government of N. Korea nor the chaos that's going on right now in Iraq. Anarchy and freedom is what I want. ~Switch ^{t c g} 04:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]