User talk:Adiakritos

Julien Blanc article

Some revisions made to the closing re: the CNN interview, which I think help. See what you think. Feel free to write on my talk page too. — Yksin (talk) 06:53, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Followup from article's talk page. Don't know what problem you had posting on my talk page. You should be able to edit it like any other Wikipedia page — my talk page is at User talk:Yksin. Remember to log in before editing Wikipedia: that way you will also get notifications when anyone writes on your talk page; and will also help keep a record of edits you have made under the "Contributions" link in the upper right corner of your browser screen. Although editing is currently semi-protected on Blanc's page (which happened because of a lot of vandalism a couple days ago), that is due to expire in a day or two; and besides, you might also want to edit other articles in your areas of interest. I have had a sense of you as a possibly good editor, which is why I've been trying to take some time to explain policy stuff on the article's talk page.

A coupla things. First, to directly follow from what I just wrote on the article talk page (which you should read first): There's a limit about how much explanatory information we can include in the article from the various newspaper articles. The info about the various accusations made by Blanc's critics has already been hugely condensed and abstracted from what they were a couple of days ago in the interests of article balance and the fundamental Wikipedia policy of WP:NPOV — neutral point of view. It's because of the need for NPOV that I've gone to the lengths I have to try to find whatever other reliable, verifiable secondary sources besides the CNN article that are in defense or support of Blanc, or that can explain more completely than he was able to in the CNN interview what "context" he was talking about when he made those comments about his controversial videos, photos, etc. being "taken out of context." I have some ideas about what that context is (my speculations about D/s-like play), but again, my speculations are only original research — I can't put them in the article.

I'd very much welcome talking with you further on this talk page (which belongs to you), or on mine, especially if you have any affiliation with folks at RSD. The reason for this is that I feel the entire controversy comes about because of some fundamental misunderstandings on both sides of the issue, which have created some ugly polarizations. I've always disliked it when things become polarized and people lose sight of one another's humanity in favor of namecalling or throwing things at each other, etc., and I'd like to do my part in forging some kind of understanding.

That's a personal issue — but it's very closely related to that issue of finding reliable sources to balance the article for WP:NPOV. (Wikipedia's policy of NPOV actually goes very well with my personal dislike of the distortions that come from the polarizations that so divide people.) Anyway, I've got the impression that you may have affiliation with the RSD community, and may be able to help in that regard. Basically, I'd like to have a conversation with you about this, if you're game for it. — Yksin (talk) 18:09, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

P.S. Just reply on this page if you want, I'll have it on my watch list. For a real conversation, we'd probably need to switch to email or gmail chat or something. But need to know if you want such a conversation first, so let's start here. —Yksin (talk) 18:11, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, it'd be great to chat else where! Adiakritos@gmail.com Speaking in terms of more info on 'context', it's hard to explain. If you have a friend who you spend a lot of time with, and you know their intentions are good and they have an off the wall sense of humor, others can misinterpret that. *Especially* if that sense of humor is embodied in the persona of a misogynist. From the outside looking in it'll leave everyone outraged. From the inside looking out we're left scratching our heads at the outrage if we're not careful to consider their point of view. Just send me an email and we'll chat more. 131.91.4.40 (talk) 18:30, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

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