User talk:Adamduker
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Adamduker (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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I've created Wiki pages. I've edited Wiki pages. I've never been accused of being involved in this nonsense before. I logged onto this debate because I recently came off a terrible United flight in which one of the attendants was complaining about corporate. So I wanted to learn more, and I came across this debate. I have been a Wikipedia editor for a long time, though I don't actually do much editing unless it concerns a subject that interests me. There is no evidence that I am sock person. Simply b/c I start the occasional sentence with "But . . . ." I don't understand how that can be construed as sufficient evidence to anything. I am not a sock person and would like to request that this block be removed.Adamduker (talk) 02:33, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Decline reason:
My interpretation of the technical evidence is that you have used the same corporate ISP as the other accounts. Then on top of that, the behavioural evidence suggests that you're the same person. Overall, it's enough to decline this request. PhilKnight (talk) 08:15, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
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- The usage of "but" is among the least convincing of the evidence presented at the SPI, and by itself is meaningless. The other evidence is very difficult to refute and speaks for itself. — MusikAnimal talk 04:00, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
MusikAnimal, I am not a sock person. I am a real person. I honestly don't understand why I am being accused of this. We have different IPs, so I don't know what you mean when you say we have technical similarities. We misspelled someone's name in different ways. We agree on some things. But I have never even met these other people. As you admit at least one of the points of evidence is meaningless, perhaps you might reconsider. I am an actual human being. I do not mean to be rude, but I must say that this is not the way to treat well-intentioned people with whom you disagree.Adamduker (talk) 05:20, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Adamduker (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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It is impossible that I have the same corporate IP address as the other people, as I live alone. I don't see how that could possibly be right. The behavioral stuff is simply untrue. I am not a sock person. I have created Wikipedia pages. I have edited them. And I have had an account for far longer than any of them. Adamduker (talk) 13:12, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Living alone has nothing to do with corporate (work) IP addresses. It's pretty obvious that you are editing from different accounts at the same corporate IP (work) or, at best, you are engaged in tag-team meat-puppetry. Having created and edited other Wikipedia page is irrelevant to this block. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:09, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
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Adamduker (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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It is 100% impossible that I am using the same corporate (work) IP address as the other person. I am editing from home. Check the IP addresses. I guarantee mine is not the same. It simply can't be. I am nobody's puppet. I would never make up a fake name or address to sack the box in any direction. The only reason I would ever consider doing that is if I was forced to because you wrongly blocked my legitimate account. Adamduker (talk) 19:26, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
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The checkusers have presented solid evidence here, and the editing patterns make it clear. only (talk) 19:37, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
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- Just as the other two socks do, you are twisting words around. I never said the usage of "but" is meaningless, I said it was by itself meaningless. Of course it means something or else I wouldn't have presented it as evidence. And listen, I'm not out to get anyone wrongfully blocked. Remember Huon and I are not Jeff Smisek fans or the like, we just wanted to improve neutrality and make the article conform to WP:BLP policy. If I'm understanding it correctly, the technical evidence shows you are likely related to the other socks based on where and when you edited, and multiple checkusers have stated this. Furthermore, the sheer coincidence of the editor interaction between you, Lauraface32 and Topdog76 is just downright shocking. Tag on the similar editing habits and you're looking at a pretty air-tight case. My recommendation is to revoke talk page access to prevent further disruption of continual unblock requests. — MusikAnimal talk 22:07, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- I will take you at your word when you are not trying to get anyone wrongly blocked. But that is exactly what happened. I am not trying to misrepresent you at all. But the plain fact is that people have accused me of editing from the same or similar location as these other people. I cannot be more emphatic when I say this is simply not true. Whoever is making this claim is either badly misinformed or simply misrepresenting things. I am not a sock person. I simply agreed with Lauraface on her position. Your editing habits are very similar to Huon's, but I would never think of accusing you of something like this. I am shocked that I was accused. There is not a single piece of technical evidence -- as many have claimed. The main piece of behavioral "evidence" is that I agree with them. But if it is against the rules to agree with someone, then that defeats the whole purpose of Wikipedia. Again, I am not a sock person. I am a real human being who has never even so much as been ACCUSED of something like this before. There was no trial. No chance for me to defend myself. The first I ever heard of this was when I was already blocked based on false evidence. Again, and I say this as respectfully as possible, THERE IS NO WAY IN THE WORLD THAT MY IP ADDRESS IS THE SAME AS THESE PEOPLE. CLAIMS TO THE CONTRARY ARE PATENTLY FALSE.Adamduker (talk) 23:01, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- When evidence is strong enough, we sometimes do not notify suspected sockpuppets of the case before administrative action is taken. The other two socks went on a rampage attacking Huon which is why I didn't ping you. Have you carefully read the evidence presented at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lauraface32? It goes well beyond you just agreeing with Lauraface32. The timing and invested interest in two seemingly unrelated topics is what really stands out. How can you explain Lauraface32 siding with you in an editing dispute back in February about a church, then the very next heated dispute they get involved in, 10 months later, about the CEO of an airline, you again appear – after three entire months without editing. Between the two disputes, both you and Lauraface32 revert reputable editors removal of content that contained BLP concerns, citing consensus is needed to remove it. That is some coincidence, you must admit! Then the linguistic similarities. As for the checkuser, I can't speak for it because I can't see it, but the community and the Wikimedia Foundation has put their trust in them, so when multiple checkusers report the same findings it's pretty sure thing. I'm not saying it's the same IP though – I don't know. At any rate, surely you can see why we are so convinced you are related to the other accounts? Right? — MusikAnimal talk 23:54, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- I will take you at your word when you are not trying to get anyone wrongly blocked. But that is exactly what happened. I am not trying to misrepresent you at all. But the plain fact is that people have accused me of editing from the same or similar location as these other people. I cannot be more emphatic when I say this is simply not true. Whoever is making this claim is either badly misinformed or simply misrepresenting things. I am not a sock person. I simply agreed with Lauraface on her position. Your editing habits are very similar to Huon's, but I would never think of accusing you of something like this. I am shocked that I was accused. There is not a single piece of technical evidence -- as many have claimed. The main piece of behavioral "evidence" is that I agree with them. But if it is against the rules to agree with someone, then that defeats the whole purpose of Wikipedia. Again, I am not a sock person. I am a real human being who has never even so much as been ACCUSED of something like this before. There was no trial. No chance for me to defend myself. The first I ever heard of this was when I was already blocked based on false evidence. Again, and I say this as respectfully as possible, THERE IS NO WAY IN THE WORLD THAT MY IP ADDRESS IS THE SAME AS THESE PEOPLE. CLAIMS TO THE CONTRARY ARE PATENTLY FALSE.Adamduker (talk) 23:01, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Talk page access revoked
[edit]We don't seem to be getting anywhere, and in this context, I'm revoking talk page access. PhilKnight (talk) 03:00, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
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Nomination of Philip Benedict for deletion
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