User talk:Accounting4Taste/Archive 15

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AmericInn

Could you please undelete AmericInn? I'd been planning to fix up the article for quite a while, and I hardly think it was an A7 or G11. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Many otters • One hammer • HELP)} 19:00, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Of course I'll restore it, your request is sufficient reason (and it's amazing that you found me signed in). I scanned it briefly and there seems to be a enormous amount of unsubstantiated assertion; good luck with your work on it. Accounting4Taste:talk 19:04, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Someone's beaten me to it. If there's something I can do to help, I'll be sporadically available. Accounting4Taste:talk 19:06, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Re:Rebecca (1940 film)

In response to your message in relation to my categorization of this film as LGBT-related, Mrs. Danvers is obsessed completely with Rebecca and in one scene, Danvers removes Rebecca's underwear from a drawer and draws it close to her. The obsession is so extreme that for me at least, it suggests sexual attraction. The author of the original book, Daphne du Maurier, was bisexual. TheGeniusPrince 22:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheGeniusPrince (talk • contribs)

It is mentioned in the film The Celluloid Closet. http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=EC7F65B13E94970A That link is to the complete documentary. TheGeniusPrince (talk) 22:55, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Philipntran (talk) 20:39, 7 May 2009 (UTC)philipntran

Hi Accounting4Taste,

I am not the original author of the webpage "Wong Fu Productions". As of Saturday May 2, 2009, the three guys who make up Wong Fu Productions have made me their historian. They asked to me to create a wiki for them then I found out it was deleted. Is it possible for you to restore the webpage because this is a project we want to get up and running.

Bests

Philip Tran

I've replied on your page at User talk:Philipntran. Accounting4Taste:talk 21:51, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Undelete request

I was about to create a page for Antiochian Village, and noticed that it had been created and deleted already. I'm not sure what was included in the article before, but I intended on starting with the text of the article from OrthodoxWiki and adding in some citations from articles found in Google News' archive and this Orthodoxy in America template, at least. If this still won't constitute significance that's fine, but let me know either way. --Npa213 Talk|Contrib 01:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC) 00:28, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I've put the deleted content on your talk page; it sounds like you have enough material to demonstrate notability, so by all means move ahead. If there's something I can do to help, let me know. Accounting4Taste:talk 00:31, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks much! --Npa213 Talk|Contrib 00:34, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

RfA Thank You

My RFA passed today at 75/2/1 so I wanted to thank you for your participation in it. Special thanks go to GlassCobra and FlyingToaster for their nomination and support. Cheers! --Rosiestep (talk) 02:03, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Im sorry

I wasnt sure how to write to u so im just writing here...

I wanted to write about Pragmites but i see u have already deleted it. could u tell me why or help me get the contents so i kno if it is the same content as mine? tanx so much... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenbottle11 (talk • contribs) 08:18, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. I looked it up and the contents of the page originally was this sentence: "Pragmatism...The value of an idea or a proposition lies in its observable practical results." I deleted the page because (a) it had been tagged as a possible copyright violation of www.pragmites.com, after which the original author had blanked the page; if a page is blanked by its original author, it's assumed that the author gives permission to an administrator to delete the page (I'm paraphrasing) and so I deleted the blank page. I don't see anything stopping you from moving forward if you have an article in mind that doesn't duplicate material found at www.pragmites.com. If there's something I can do to help you, by all means leave me another note; you may want to look at WP:Your first article. Accounting4Taste:talk 18:38, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your help! --Greenbottle11 (talk) 06:52, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Is your bot stupid?

You are moving Daniel Jackson to Daniel Jackson (Stargate) because «‎ (There's more than one "Daniel Jackson" in the world.»

Then you delete Daniel Jackson (A7: No indication that the article may meet guidelines for inclusion: db-it doesn't specify the notability of the subject.)

Please stop messing with redirects...

Gonioul (talk) 00:13, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry to say I have very little idea what you're talking about. I don't believe I would have performed the page move you suggest, as I move pages extremely rarely and would not have left that edit summary had I done so, and I don't operate a bot of any kind. I recall deleting a tagged page this afternoon for a different (human being) Daniel Jackson who didn't meet notability requirements, offer any references, etc. If you could perhaps guide me to things that you think have been wrongly done, and assume good faith, I could be of some further assistance or perhaps learn something. Accounting4Taste:talk 04:59, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

No, in fact, upon investigation, you appear to have confused me with at least one other person, who did the page move some time ago. Our user names aren't even similar. I suggest you re-investigate this; confirm, as I did, what I deleted and the time I deleted it, and get back to me if you still have a problem. Accounting4Taste:talk 05:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

High Guard nonsense tag

Sorry, I didn't realise it was written in-world. As someone who has never heard of the 'world' in was written in, I therefore assumed it was nonsense! Noisy Crew (talk) 08:45, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Carlos Redman

Yeah he's not notable at all,just a quick look at the page seems like the seem self promotion links as last time. I'll dig deeper in the next day or two and see what I can do about it. Ridernyc (talk) 09:42, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Please, please, please let me have my page back.

Hi,

I'm Tom Hunter and i'm an actor who wants to make it big! I decided to give myself a bit of a better chance by creating a wikipedia page... but not to advertise myself. It was to tell people about the things i have done. My friend Leyci Wightman was in most of these performances with me and she has got her own wikipedia page and has had one for a reasonable amount of time. If you don't want to un-delete my page page then could you delete hers because 1. I have stuck to the rules. 2. My page is written in the same context as hers (telling people about me) and 3. I didn't have time to completely finsh it (i have to sleep) lol

But please consider this plea because i mean no harm.

Thank You,

Tom Hunter Tomoso3 (talk) 16:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomoso3 (talk • contribs) 16:06, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

By The Way

By The Way my page was Tom Hunter (actor)

Thanks,

Tom Hunter Tomoso3 (talk) 16:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomoso3 (talk • contribs) 16:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Tom Hunter (actor)

Hi again,

I have just been looking at wikipedia's policies on speedy deletion and i have discovered that i do have the right to have a page as an entertainer. It clearly states that you can have an entertainer 'biography' if you have been in a notible perormance. Would you consider playing the role of Michael Banks in Mary Poppins (musical) in West End, London a notible performance? Most people would. Would you consider playing the role of Jeremy Potts in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (musical) on it's first ever tour stop in Sunderland a notible performance? Once again, I think most people would. Please make sure you take the time to read articles before you nominate them for speedy deletion because you may start reading and think 'oh another sad-act trying to get famous' when i'm not. I just want people to know i'm out there.

Thank You for your time,

Tom Hunter Tomoso3 (talk) 16:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomoso3 (talk • contribs) 16:31, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your notes. You should be aware that no one has a "right" to have a page as an entertainer or anything else, so that argument isn't going anywhere with me. With respect to your having been in a "notible performance", yes, I do disagree that playing the role of Jeremy Potts in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang on "it's first ever tour stop in Sunderland" is a notable performance. In my opinion, notable performances are those that receive the attention of an entire nation. However, my opinion counts for very little; what matters is the opinions of arm's-length third-party experts stating that your performance in this or any other venue is somehow noteworthy or special, in a verifiable way. None of those were present in the article I saw; in fact, there were no reliable sources whatsoever. I assure you that I did read the entire article before deleting it, and I will continue to do so upon request from someone who tags it.

If you disagree with me about the notability of your performing career, you're entirely welcome to work on the article in what we call a "sandbox" page and try to add enough references to demonstrate notability. You should be aware that Wikipedia policies strongly discourage people from creating articles about themselves, under our conflict of interest policies; if you are sufficiently notable for an article, usually there are lots of people anxious to write it about you. I will be happy to take the deleted material and place it in a sandbox page for you, where you can have a little more time to learn our policies and add material that you think is relevant.

And with respect to your attempt to suggest that your article is notable because someone else's article contains notability, we have a policy here that says essentially that every article is considered in and of itself, and not with respect to how it compares to any other article; she may be sufficiently notable for an article because of her performance in the West End, I'm not entirely sure. I was looking into that article's history when you sent me your second and third notes and I have a question I want to ask someone else about it. If I were you, I would dismiss that other article from my future considerations and concentrate on improving the one you wish to remain.

If you have any further questions, I will try to assist you. Let me know if you want a sandbox page containing the deleted material. I suggest that you read WP:Your first article and every link I've provided here before you move forward, but that's up to you. Accounting4Taste:talk 16:47, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

The Red Room (JT Mollner) Speedy Del

I think this has some pretty blatant copyright violations. Thoughts? Vicenarian (talk) 22:49, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree, after checking IMDB, and have deleted it. I left the author a note linking to Wikipedia's copyright policy and laid out some other basics (I like to be sure that people who are infringing copyright are aware of just what they're infringing). I trust you find this satisfactory, and thanks for bringing it to my attention. Accounting4Taste:talk 22:55, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Absolutely. Just doing my WP:NPP job! :-) Vicenarian (talk) 23:05, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

<grin> Been there, shoveled that. There are two types of page that I like to get right on top of -- attack pages and copvio. If you ever feel that there's a particularly egregious example of either of those that you would like to have dealt with quickly, try me for that or any other WP:NPP task that you'd like an administrative hand with. Accounting4Taste:talk 23:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Wilco. Many thanks. Will keep you on Wiki-speed-dial. :-D Vicenarian (talk) 23:10, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Green Messiah

Hi,

I hope you will rescind your deletion warning on the Green Messiah page - which we hope to supplement with further detail shortly. Green Messiah has not been traditionally published, but it is a complete work by Bristol author Luke Andreski and is due for release by installment over 2009.

Please note that the details provided here are factual about the nature of the work and do not seek to advertise it but merely to state that it now exists as an intellectual entity.

Further references will be added shortly. The newspaper reference so far given is valid.

The novel is an element of a two part project - each element of which we wish to assert as existing intellectual entities about which we believe people should be able to seek information within Wikipedia.

The second entity is the secular eco-creed New Creationism, which is an incipient environmental movement despite being featured in the novel. I hope to put details of this on Wikipedia shortly.

Thank you for your consideration.

--AgentAtAWDS (talk) 10:24, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. My opinions haven't changed about the ways in which I feel this article infringes upon Wikipedia's notability policy; I can't accept that an unpublished novel is notable for being un-notable, as per the citation. All articles on Wikipedia must have notability, and that notability has to be asserted by arm's-length third-party expert opinion in a verifiable way. Self-publication, or lack of publication, confer no notability; the essence of notability for a novel is that it gets published by a third party publisher (there are incredibly rare exceptions, such as the possible self-publication of a novel by a celebrity in another field, but I don't think this qualifies). Feel free to remove the PROD tag yourself, if you believe you are going to add material that somehow indicates that this unpublished novel is notable; I would then assess the article in terms of a prospective articles for deletion process, at which point I would either leave it alone or move forward. If you have any questions about Wikipedia policy, feel free to leave me a note. Accounting4Taste:talk 14:04, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Paid to Dream

I also liked db-spam, but after I clicked the delete button, I decided db-web would have been fine too. Also, thanks for agreeing to the prod on Marinello School of Beauty; that could have gone either way, but I just don't like to speedy when I can't get to the end of the Google news/books/scholar links. - Dank (push to talk) 15:36, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

LOL sometimes it's hard to decide which among many db categories a particular page belongs to. As far as Marinello School of Beauty, etc., I've been experimenting with patrolling pages from the very back of the backlog and I think I was working a little too quickly; I want to be researching some of these more thoroughly, so this is a good reminder. Thanks, and feel free to decline speedies further if you think I'm moving too fast again. Accounting4Taste:talk 15:53, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Copyvio

Lucy Activewear. Danke. Vicenarian (talk) 17:28, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

*high five* Vicenarian (talk) 17:32, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Ack, it's back, and spammeriffic. Vicenarian (talk)

Can you delete and do a creation block on it? Vicenarian (talk) 17:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I blew it -- I was going to block it for a week but mis-cued. I'll keep my eye on it for the next little while and deal directly with the creator. Accounting4Taste:talk 17:42, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks as always for your assistance. Vicenarian (talk) 17:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I note that you're doing approximately what I would have done (well, maybe you're doing it better and faster <grin>); thanks for working with this user to get some cites into the article. Accounting4Taste:talk 18:12, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm not just interested in deletion - I'm also interested in making sure articles with potential get fixed up for inclusion. Isn't that what we're REALLY about? :-) Thanks for the kind words and vote of confidence. Vicenarian (talk) 18:17, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Exactly, and thanks for putting it so well. On my more discouraged days, sometimes I think that Wikipedia selects for deletionist bullies (and on my really discouraged days, I think I'm one of them); what brought me here in the first place, though, was the desire to help to provide useful articles, and yes, that's what we're really about. Accounting4Taste:talk 18:21, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

This isn't copyvio - Hunter Crawford Stapor - but really needs to go ASAP. Unsourced BLP, possibly attack. Vicenarian (talk) 20:53, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, that was taking my WikiStress up waaaay high. Vicenarian (talk) 21:04, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Deep breaths -- deep breaths. (LOL) I have to admit I'm very suspicious of this article, especially with the photo, but I'll see if the author wants to go further with a sandbox page. Accounting4Taste:talk 21:06, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure (if I were a sysop) that I'd even userfy that page. It's pretty nasty. Anyway, take a look at my new Wikistress meter! Vicenarian (talk) 21:16, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Zero in the way of Ghits, other than self-referential ones, so I'll be taking a very hard line on recreating that one without strong evidence. BTW, beer is definitely better than deep breaths!! Accounting4Taste:talk 21:26, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Please undelete page David Brind. I loved his movie DARE which premiered at Sundance this year and want to know more about him. Doesn't that make him notable? It got reviewed and is all over the web. Sallie Browne Salliebrowne (talk) 15:56, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of article Dipylon 2.0

One of my students, Asbill, just posted an article on a piece of web-based artwork, Diplyon 2.0, which you speedily deleted today. While I have issues with the A7 standard having a bias against New Media artwork vs. non-web-based artwork, I realize that you are not the person to take this up with. As a wikipedia newbie, I suspect that she did not adequately make a credible claim of significance or importance, but feel that the artwork is on the edge of such a claim and would ask that you reinstate the article with a ({{subst:prod}}) tag to allow her to amend the article in a convincing fashion. Thanks Grhabyt (talk) 18:32, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. You're correct to suggest that the editor did not adequately make a credible claim of significance or importance, at least in what I saw, since there were no reliable sources at all. I'm prepared to restore the material to a sandbox page where it can be worked on in the fashion you suggest -- this will give you a bit more time than a PROD tag. You'll find the material at User:Asbill/Sandbox. If you have any questions, or there's something with which I can be of further assistance, feel free to leave me a note. Accounting4Taste:talk 19:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. To be honest, I told her in advance that it was unlikely for an artwork to be considered notable if the artist wasn't first established as notable. Her sandbox will be a fine place for her to work on it.Grhabyt (talk) 19:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

My pleasure to be of assistance. I wanted to add that I agree with you that Wikipedia is biased against New Media artwork; or, rather, that there is a strong bias against the kind of reliable sources that would most easily bolster claims of notability for such artwork. Unfortunately administrators run up against rather defined policies in this area and cannot exercise the kind of judgment that might please you (it would soon be overturned by the efforts of someone more anxious than I to hew to the rigid policy framework). Again, if there's something I can do to help, you can count me as sympathetic and potentially useful. Accounting4Taste:talk 21:35, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hey, I just wanted to say thanks for helping me out. I got the article "Mike Scheller" back, but I don't know how to get someone not to delete it again! Please help! Sztrack (talk) 03:43, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. Essentially what would be required is for you to add references; experts in their field who are writing about the topic in a verifiable way. In this case, that would be (for instance) articles in newspapers and magazines, talking about Mike Scheller specifically with reference to the content of the article, his hobbies or avocation. That's what notability means here; that the person is sufficiently well-known that there are experts who can testify that what the person has done is important. I have to say that I can't imagine that you could provide those references, which is why I said that you may have to accept that Wikipedia isn't the place for your article. Have you considered MySpace or Facebook? Again, you should read WP:Why was my article deleted?, and perhaps WP:Your first article. Accounting4Taste:talk 03:49, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Article deleted as copywitten but I am the writer!

Hi, I noticed you deleted my article on the May/Kraus homestead - because it was a copywright error. However, I copied my own website - I am the author of both the website and the wikipedia article - so I do not udnerstand why you deleted it 97.73.64.142 (talk) 19:41, 30 May 2009 (UTC) Myra Bonhage-Hale, Steward La Paix Herb Farm/aka May/Kraus Homestead www.lapaixherbfarm.com - what more can I say?

Thanks for your note. I'm afraid that I can't locate the deleted article, because I don't have a precise idea of the title you gave it; that means I don't know if you asserted a copyright on the talk page of the article or not. However, I understand what you're getting at; the Wikipedia policy that governs this situation can be found at this location. If you follow the directions there, that should resolve any possible copyright problems. Be sure that the article meets our other policies -- you can find a refresher here -- and you should be good to go. If you need further assistance, leave me another note. Accounting4Taste:talk 22:14, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

InsuraFix Deletion

Hello,

You were right to delete the article for various reasons. But please know that I just wanted to get the wiki page started and was going to come back and add more today. We just launched the website yesterday and I will be contributing to the article on a regular basis to make it as encyclopedic as possible.

Thanks for your time and consideration,

Codemaster1010 (talk) 18:43, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Jaaonne Jackson

It's come to my attention that you want to delete my page because you believe it's about me, when it isn't. First thing I'm not a woman I'm JJ Jackson, Jaaonne Jackson is my sister. I was making this page for her about her. and you find that if you give me enough time i can make it as to what ever the standard is. But I do have to admit I am a little affended by the notion that I didn't read the guidlines and that you assumed I wass my sister when clearley on my profile it says I am a male. Lok I'm open to what ever you have to say but please don't make any more assumtions. JJacks87 (talk) 05:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. I have no idea what you mean when you say that it says on your "profile" that you're a male, but I don't really care... if you don't like the material on your user page, feel free to delete it. I'll be sure not to do you any more favours. Best of luck with your future endeavours, and I hope in the future your contributions fit within Wikipedia's guidelines. Accounting4Taste:talk 14:11, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Man what are you talkin' about I appreciate your help and I gladly take it. The only thing I was sour about is that you thought I was my sister (which you didn't even apologize for) but if you can help me by all means please do JJacks87 (talk) 18:02, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I gather that the material that I placed on your user page as a courtesy is not appropriate and have removed it, also as a courtesy. If you have any further questions or problems, feel free to consult any of the multiple sources of help available from Wikipedia volunteers. Best of luck with your future endeavours. Accounting4Taste:talk 18:13, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

pls advise

Sometimes when I tag an article for speedy deletion and leave a note for the author, the author deletes my tag and I have to undo his/her edit. Can you pls tell me where I can find the tag/template that warns authors from deleting the tag, something that goes along the lines of, "you deleted the tag for speedy deletion, pls dont do that, etc".... Thanks! Lilaac (talk) 21:33, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Good question. I don't know offhand, but I'll track it down and get back to you here with it. Accounting4Taste:talk 21:34, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the info! I face this situation so many times and didnt know where to locate that tag from, thanks again! Lilaac (talk) 22:02, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

My pleasure to be of assistance; let me know if there's anything further. Accounting4Taste:talk 22:12, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi Accounting4Taste, yesterday I marked a page for speedy deletion which is an obvious case for speedy deletion, but the author kept removing the tags, and even others marked the page but the author kept removing the tag and started a talk page with hangon, but its with nonsense, and the page is still not deleted, perhaps its gone down the list of new pages and noone's noticed it so far.... will you pls have a look at it Ciara Welch. thanks! Lilaac (talk) 15:51, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Not really a mindless bot

OK, the person who actually did the deleting was not a "mindless bot", even though the thing was probably brought to the attention of the person who put the CSD tag there probably was. What's really conspicuous is that you didn't say anything to me, even if only to make the usual statement about how anti-social I am because I care about honesty and justice. OK, so I'm impatient sometimes.

Anyway, it's been four years now and I think maybe I'll make an issue of this in suitable discussion forums again. Michael Hardy (talk) 04:47, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about. Judging by the tone of the above message, I'm not entirely sure I want to know, but feel free to enlighten me. Remember to assume good faith, please. Accounting4Taste:talk 14:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I was referring to the edit summary I wrote when I created this page.

Four years ago several people decided to delete the exceptions to the rule against redirects to non-existent pages and then deny that those exceptions had ever existed, and when the simple reasons for the exceptions were patiently explained to them, they denied that they had read the explanations, and said that they had read them and could not understand them, and said that the explanations they had read had never been written, and said they had read them and understood them, and said that the explanations they had read and understood had never existed could could not conceivably exist.

The policy was not created by an honest process.

The answer to my question turned out to be 12 hours. Michael Hardy (talk) 02:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. I'm not entirely sure what you want to have happen at this point. Is there something that I've done wrong that you want me to not repeat, or that you wish me to correct? I haven't been an editor here for as long as four years, so I'm afraid the policy changes you're referring to are things with which I'm not familiar. However, I'm always interested in learning of things that I've been doing wrong, and if you would care to explain to me what it is about my actions to which you object, I'd be grateful. I assume that you are working in good faith, but I'm sorry to say that I can't quite grasp what you're trying to accomplish. If you manage to instruct me, who knows? I might even be able to help you achieve what you want to have happen. Accounting4Taste:talk 02:32, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

At this point I'm not sure if there's anything you can do, but I was curious whether anyone deleting that thing would notice the edit summary or wonder what it was about. I'm going to take the matter up with Brion Vibber. Michael Hardy (talk) 00:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply; I appreciate knowing what your interest was. I don't have a crystal-clear memory of deleting the page in question, but I know I ensured that it was a redirect to a page that no longer existed, because I think that's the only kind I will delete (except for ones where the author requests it). If I noticed the edit summary in question, given its rather enigmatic wording, I might have taken it for some kind of vandalism and not probed deeply into it. I hope this helps you; feel free to call upon me further if it will be of use to you in resolving an issue. Accounting4Taste:talk 05:00, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Please restore deleted page "Ross Enterprise" into sandbox

Hello, the page I was working on "Ross Enterprise" was flagged for speedy deletion. I'm writing to request that the page be restored into the sandbox so that I can complete the page. I'm obviously a newbie at this and did not intend for the page to go live quite yet.

Thank you very much for you consideration.

Cdcsw ross (talk) 15:09, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Cdcsw ross

Thanks for your note. I have created the page with the deleted material; you'll find it at User:Cdcsw ross/Sandbox. If there's anything further with which I can help you, feel free to leave me a note. Accounting4Taste:talk 19:09, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

sardine diet deletion

Hi, I am writing about the sardine diet deletion. I am not affiliated with them and have not seen the wiki page that was deleted- maybe it was too enthusiastic??? I have no idea... But I have been reading about the diet which seems pretty cool- very focused on geting lots of omega 3's from real food- without the pesky mercury and assorted neuro-toxins and what have you. It's not like a cabbage diet where all you eat is sardines- whatever. The point is I was disappointing to see it deleted because i was hoping to read even more about it here- I love wikipedia... And from the perspective of a diet obsessed female (our numbers are legion) I just wanted you to know I missed seeing it - and also felt it was wrong that it got deleted because it is a real diet that there is interest in.

I've never done any Wikipedia type of thing-I don't know if I put this in the right place or addressed it to the right person. And to the extent I messed up I apologize in advance. Thanks.

Hope this is right?:

Mel1976e (talk) 23:56, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm happy to help you if I can; that's part of my function here, so no need to apologize, your questions are very welcome. Unfortunately I cannot locate the article you're talking about; I can't find anything under Sardine diet and I gather that you didn't create the article yourself, and those are my only two ways of looking for it. Can you give me any more information that would help me to locate the information? There are a number of reasons why articles are deleted, and without seeing the article, I can't say exactly what happened. If you know the username of the person who created the article, that would also help. Of course, you would also be welcome to create an article yourself (I'd advise you read [[[WP:Your first article]] first to get some hints). There's nothing about the topic in and of itself that is somehow "illegal" for Wikipedia or anything like that. Let me know if you can give me more information or if there's anything further I can do to help you. Accounting4Taste:talk 00:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

It was created by User:Snowed, an s.p.a. with literally NO other edits. You deleted it as a G11.--Orange Mike | Talk 01:11, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow that was a fast response! This is the link I came to. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardine_diet -there it said the page was deleted. I have no idea who created it... I can't imagine doing a page myself-lol- I am just quite pleased this message got posted and sent - that seems like a big accomplishment right now :) I guess I am just posting a vote for reconsideration on the delete- thanks again for your prompt and friendly response. Mel1976e (talk) 00:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mel1976e (talk • contribs) 00:16, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your note and the kind words. User:Orangemike, above, gave me a way to find the article (thanks again!). I looked at the history and found that it was actually deleted twice, both times for the same reason; it was assessed as advertising. I re-read the article and it still seemed to me to be advertising, because there were no references that suggested that any expert who was at arm's length to the diet's creator had in any way assessed the glowing claims that were made for the diet's use and effects, etc. Reliable sources of expert opinion are a key element of Wikipedia articles; articles without such references are subject to immediate deletion, and I gauged that it was impossible to re-write the article to take out the advertising-like elements and leave anything that would be useful to anyone.

However, since you're interested in reading more about this diet, I thought you would be interested in the entire text of the article. I don't think that simply un-deleting it would be the right thing to do (someone would almost certainly tag it as advertising again very quickly). But I will take the deleted material and put it into what we call a "sandbox" page -- a sandbox page isn't part of Wikipedia per se, it's a place where people can work on articles until they're ready to be added to the 'pedia, or just test things out. You will find the deleted material at User:Mel1976e/Sandbox (just click on the link that will take you to the page), and generally you will have a month or thereabouts to either work on the article or simply to read it. The article contains information that will let you get to the website and commercial materials of the individual who created the diet. If you read the material and think that you wouldn't be interested in trying to turn it into an advertising-free article, you might let me know here and I'll delete the material again whenever you're finished with it (someone is likely to delete it after a while as part of the general tidying-up effort here, but you should have a few weeks). I hope you find this a satisfactory solution; if there is something else that you want to have happen, leave me another note and I'll see what I can do for you. Accounting4Taste:talk 02:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I've also left our standard "welcome" message on your talk page, found at User talk:Mel1976e, and a cut-down version of the above. Let me know if there's something further you'd like. Accounting4Taste:talk 02:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

One final thing I thought of that might assist you. If you are truly anxious that there be a Wikipedia article about this diet, but don't want to create it yourself, you can go to Wikipedia:Requested articles and see if someone will either take on the project for you or assist you with it. I have no experience with this area, so I can't give you further assistance, but I wanted you to know that it existed. Accounting4Taste:talk 03:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much. I am going to read it right now. I don't know that I will do anything else with it but I very much appreciate you informing me of what I can do if I am so inclined. Mel1976e (talk) 12:31, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I just finished reading it and I see what you mean. Frankly, I was surprised about the lack of cited information given that there is such a large body of evidence about the benefits of Omega 3's (seems like every scientist and their sister has done a study on it) as well a huge body of evidence regarding poisons in so may of our fatty fishes -that are the primary source for these fats. (making getting adequate Omega 3's from your diet a minefield.)

I am kind of tempted to do something with this article- just because I find the issue to be important.I don't know that I have the time or skill, but you have successfully tempted me. Thank you again for all of your help. Mel1976e (talk) 13:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Arrow Lock, etc.

I was in the beginning pages of creating a page for Arrow Lock and Door Hardware Company and received the message that it was unambitious advertising, then it was deleted. This is my first article and I am sure I have lots to learn. I am the brand manager for Arrow Lock and was attempting to post a non-advertising article. I had just started with a sentence about what products Arrow manufacturers a photo of the logo, and a product photo. My guess is it was the product photo that got deleted, since it came from a poster I had created. If that is the case, if you will reinstate it, I would be happy to change it to just a plain product image on a white background. --Hacketjoe (talk) 17:19, 5 June 2009 (UTC)hacketjoe

I've answered you on your own talk page, found at User talk:Hacketjoe. Accounting4Taste:talk 20:02, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Deleted page

I am a bit confused, I am Jason Zenga and it has been brought to my attention by a member of a specific forum who stated that my page was deleted becuase I was a socio path..? Is this a joke. I have spent more than 4 years in the music industry and have produced many tracks and remixed many others working both for UK and US record labels and performing as well as touring for over a two year period. I have performed with groups such as Linkin Park, DJ-Ztrip, DJ-Shadow, Bad Boy Bill. Richard Humpty Vision, ATB. I have dome production work for a number of artists such as CRW and have produced hit remix to reach the top 50 both in Europe and in the states with artists such as Josh wink and Scott project. you may have even heard some of my remixes. So to say that none of this information can be confirmed is somewhat confusing. This page had every write to be posted as it did not infringe on any copyright, It was not spam or did not participate in creating spam and last but not least it was not in any way Vandalism. There was truth behind all of the information posted. Please inform me of the issue and what steps can be taken to restore my page. I was in fact linked by others to the section of American Techno artist as well as American Hip Hop artist which is also known to be true.

you can reach me at : info at artasylumboston dot com and any and all information would be greatly apprecaited, Thank you for your time - Jason 98.229.216.66 (talk) 04:09, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I've replied on your talk page at User talk:98.229.216.66; I only do Wikipedia business in full view of everyone, so I won't be e-mailing you personally (not that I have the time to do that anyway). Accounting4Taste:talk 17:11, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Bonnie Richardson

Normally, I would agree, but she's been covered extensively by major media, and it's the second time she's done this. I'm inclined to make an exception (this time only). Acroterion _(talk) 18:02, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

LOL I was in the process of agreeing with you; once I sorted out the confusing Photobucket stuff and looked at the links, I am also inclined to make an exception here. This seems like sufficient in the way of reliable sources to me. I appreciate the note; thanks. BTW, I should have looked at the history before tagging it; I know your work sufficiently well to know that if you declined it, it's worth examining carefully (if not agreeing outright). Accounting4Taste:talk 18:04, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I might have done the same thing if I hadn't seen her picture in the Yahoo news lead when I turned on the computer; no worries. Acroterion _(talk) 18:08, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I also appreciate what I read on your talk page in response to the editor who talked about speedy deletion when someone is called "gay". I feel the same way as that editor, but I agree with your response 100% and will probably be quoting you in the future -- I just hope I remember to attribute it to you. ;-) Accounting4Taste:talk 18:10, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

No attribution needed - half the things I do as an admin are derived from things I've seen other admins do that I've appreciated. Acroterion _(talk) 18:36, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Jason Zenga

Thank you for the response, however I am aware of the person who sent this anonymous email. I can send copies of both my contracts and my discography as well as some links, they may need to be translated as most of my career was spent in and throughout Europe. I then returned to the states and worked on production and post production with both major labels and artists, you will easily find this information by contacting Ialnd / Def Jam music group as well as Universal media. I also taught digital production courses and have done some guest speaking for propeller head software "reason" although no longer active you can view info here: http://www.meetup.com/digital/members/4199824/ where you can also view an older logo of mine. All of the information is easily verifiable upon further diligence you will also find ,my information associated with the WMC in addition to my performances at Sensation in Amsterdam and also Mysteryland in Germany. This was not done as self vanity and was simply done as a notation of my background and history. This page was not created by me but was edited by me at one point. and I made sure not to advertise but only noted an associated link to my current position as a gallery curator / operator. Thank you for your time and you should have realized that the links based on American techno and hip hop artist arised not from me but from others who were able to verify my credentials and associate the links appropriately.When I mentioned the "socio path" comment I was referring to the anonymous user who contacted you to state that this was done out of context it is the same person who has been taunting me online for over three months I am aware of his actions as have even taken legal action to a point. But to state that this info is incorrect when it is readily available is just poor judgment and a personal issue. The information may be quite a few years old but it is still valid none the less. Thank you - Jason

and I will be more than glad to furnish any and all info relating to my participation as well as my employment within these realms.

Thank you - JasonPnkbx (talk) 23:05, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't like to think that someone is wasting their efforts here, so I apologize for not having been more clear; there really isn't any point in trying to convince me personally of any of the things that you've mentioned above. Apparently you can prove these assertions with reference to what we call reliable sources, although I was unable to do so, and if you want to recreate an article about yourself, that's what will need to happen (in the body of the article, not here). You can create an article about yourself whenever you like; you don't require my permission or approval for anything you want to do here. I still recommend that you start by following the links in this paragraph, as well as reading WP:Your first article and the conflict of interest policy, and going forward from there. I'd be happy to provide you with the deleted content if you want it, and to provide you with information about the relevant Wikipedia policies. The article that you create will still have to face the scrutiny of any Wikipedia editor and/or administrator who cares to assess it with respect to whether or not it meets Wikipedia policies; believe me, that scrutiny will occur, and if I simply recreate the deleted material, as you seem to be asking me to do, I truly believe you will be going through this whole thing again with the next administrator who's requested to assess it after it's been tagged for deletion because it lacks reliable sources. If there's something further that you feel you might like to have in the way of one-on-one guidance, I recommend the friendly volunteers at WP:N?. Best of luck with your endeavours; if you'd like any of the assistance that I've outlined above, feel free to leave me a further note. Accounting4Taste:talk 04:05, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

You Deleted My Article!

...except not really. :) I just noticed that all your threads appear to be deletion related, and wanted to pop in and thank you for doing an excellent job handling the task of executing speedy deletions whilst expertly avoiding newbie bites. My hat is off to you, dear A4T. Vicenarian ^{(T · C)} 21:06, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow... that's the first time that I've read a heading that started like that, that ended so much more nicely than I've come to expect. I'm very grateful for your kind words. It is a tough job... I'm thinking of writing an essay, or maybe two: one about "Why Wikipedia selects for bullies, and what you can do about it," and "New page patrol is not a personal crusade against evil". <grin> Anyway, thanks for noticing. My goal is no bitten newbies; or as I put it, delete the non-useful articles, but retain the useful editors. Accounting4Taste:talk 23:02, 8 June 2009 (UTC)