User talk:Aaaaeh?
Retired?
[edit]For someone who's "retired" from Wikipedia, you sure are pretty active! By the way, "Republic of Ireland" is not a made-up name. You will find it in many texts, including the Irish constitution. – PeeJay 14:37, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
- I'll be retired soon. It is a made up name. It's not in the constitution actually. It can be found in the ROI act of 1949 which mentions it as a description. ie to clarify its not a constitutional monarchy etc. Your logic is flawed anyway. If Amhran na bhfiann is mentioned as the national anthem of the country does that make it the name of the country? No, when the constitution says the name is officialy Ireland it means that, whether something else is mentioned is completely irrelevant. It's pretty simple.Aaaaeh? (talk) 14:43, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
- Clarify please. What does "ROI" stand for in "ROI Act of 1949"? – PeeJay 14:44, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
- Republic of Ireland. Here just read this Republic of Ireland Act 1948
The Republic of Ireland Act 1948 is an Act of the Oireachtas whose primary provisions were to declare that the state, Ireland, is a Republic and that the President of Ireland has executive authority of any executive function of the state or in the external relations of the state. It repealed the External Relations Act, 1936 which had declared that the the Head of State of the United Kingdom (in his role as King of Ireland) should exercise that authority. As a consequence, the State ceased to be a Dominion of the Crown.
It makes clear that the term The Republic of Ireland (or Poblacht na hÉireann in Irish) is the official description (and not name) of the State. The Act was enacted in both the Irish and English languages. It was signed by the President of Ireland on 21 December 1948 and came into force on 18 April1949.[1]
- In that case, if "Republic of Ireland" is a name used to describe the state of Ireland, can you explain to me why it is considered a cardinal (see what I did there? It's a Catholic joke) sin to refer to Ireland as the Republic of Ireland? Ireland is a republic, hence "Republic of Ireland" should be fine. – PeeJay 15:12, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
- Nice joke. People get annoyed because its just incorrect. It's like if the UK was just called "England" or "Great Britain" or saying "Holland" instead of "the Netherlands" on some pages. It's wrong and a bit offensive in a way. Also there's the thing were the UK were the only country in the world to refuse to accept the constitutional name of Ireland. They called the country Republic of Ireland even though the Irish governement insisted that was the not the name. This issue was solved in 1998 where they finally acknowledged the correct name. However use of Rep. of Ireland still exists in the British media even though it is very incorrect. The term is never heard wordwide other than the football team (I'm sure you know the FIFA ruling on that).
- There is deep disatisfaction of the current Wikipedia article for the title and I'm nearly certain it will change soon as their is currently a taskforce undertaking figuring out a solution. The current consensus however is according to the Irish Manual of Style is to pipelink: [[Republic of Ireland|Ireland]]. User:Mooretwin is quite an extreme Unionist (not that there's anything wrong with Unionism) but he has quite a large political POV to undermine the country of Ireland. Putting in an incorrect name of the country is just one of these measures. Anyway I'm rambling now. Hope I cleared something up anyway.Aaaaeh? (talk) 21:09, 11 November 2008 (UTC)