User talk:A garbage person

Tell me stuff that I've done wrong. A garbage person (talk) 14:55, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

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Hi. Would you mind if I asked you, why do you call yourself "a garbage person"? SharabSalam (talk) 00:44, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Because it amuses me. A garbage person (talk) 22:24, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Which one? OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 23:10, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

citations

Hey, I saw your work on the Dongding Island page. I made some more changes based off your changes- I didn't realize that I had accidentally made the quotation from the 1958 incident seem to be unsourced. I'm not 100% familiar with all the niceties of Wikipedia citation, so I invite you to continue your work there if you see any more problem areas. Geographyinitiative (talk) 23:10, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Changing citation methods

Hi, A garbage person (excellent username, BTW) Thanks for your constructive edits on a couple of articles that I started, Shen (clam-monster)‎ and Yunji Qiqian. However, I wish you had known about WP:CITEVAR and first discussed changing in-line Harvard citations to footnotes. Is there an easy way to change this back? Keahapana (talk) 23:22, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Keahapana! I'm aware of WP:CITEVAR, but I thought it was just a lack of understanding of wiki reference templates that kept them as parentheticals. I shouldn't have presumed! My apologies.

It's pretty easy to convert the footnotes back into parentheticals. For short footnotes, they use the format {{sfn |Author |Year |p=Page Number}}. If you want standard Harvard parentheticals, with everything in the parentheses, just change it to {{harv |Author |Year |p=Page Number}}. If you want the author name outside the parentheses, change it to {{harvtxt |Author |Year |p=Page Number}}. For the ones where I took the citation from the middle of the sentence to the end, it should be fairly easy to cut & paste them back.

I don't think either article has any footnotes of the type <ref>{{harv |Author |Year |p=Page Number}}</ref>, but if you run across that, just remove the <ref> tags and paste the Harvard citation wherever that reference is called.

I re-did one section in the Shen article to have parentheticals--if you look at the differences, it's just swapping out one template for another.

Related: in the "Problems" section of Yunji Qiqian, I'm not sure if you need to have all the page numbers with the use of the parenthetical referencing in such a short page range. However, I'm leaving the {{page needed}} up, since if the content gets moved away from the introductory paragraph, none of the quotations will make sense. I did remove the section heading, though, because neither the {{page numbers needed}} or the {{page numbers improve}} templates were applicable.—A garbage person (talk) 16:03, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the information about converting footnotes to parentheticals. Full disclosure, for many reasons, this curmudgeon thinks HTML endnotes (not <f[oot]n[ote]) formatting is unsuitable for Wikipedia.

It's fun to learn when one is wrong about what we think people will see and what they do see. I assumed that when someone clicks to edit a page beginning with "Use Harvard referencing|date=December 2017", they would probably do so. Go figure. I'll try to find the easiest way to change back into inline refs and will find Lin's 1995 article again to add the pages.

I'm curious why you like working with citation templates. Best wishes, Keahapana (talk) 00:54, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

That would be because my brain turns "Use Harvard referencing" to "Use short footnotes" instead of the actual meaning, "Use only parenthetical referencing". And I love citation templates because it puts information into a standardized format, both machine- and human-readable. It makes the librarian side of my brain very happy.—A garbage person (talk) 16:42, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Quatrefoil

It's a good thing you have the patience for such bibliographical manipulations -- I really don't. It drives me nuts if I try to do anything other than the simplest and most basic form of citing... AnonMoos (talk) 03:20, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

I LOVE well-formatted citations. As I say on my userpage, I really think it's something wrong in my brain, but I won't complain. Let me know if you come across (or make) any un-cited or under-cited pages and I'll happily fix them up. And thank you for the compliment, AnonMoos! —A garbage person (talk) 20:29, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Your edits to Quatrefoil were definitely an improvement, but I'm actually a little afraid of exposing some informally-cited pages (that I'm more directly personally involved in than I was at Quatrefoil) to the merciless glare of fully theoretically-correct sourcing practices... AnonMoos (talk) 21:07, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Table background colors

I think you're misapplying Wikipedia's accessibility guidelines for table colors in the List of Solar System objects by size. The Manual of Style says that table colors can appropriately be used to convey information in tables. The chief concerns that might be relevant to the tables here are that there should be sufficient contrast between the text and background colors, and that the colors shouldn't be the only means by which the relevant information is conveyed. Now, all of the colors formerly used in the table conveyed useful information. Whether it's the best way of conveying it is another matter, but one that could have been discussed on the article's talk page. Personally I think it would make more sense to limit the number of colors to planets, moons, dwarf planets, and other objects, instead of using a different color for each planet and its moons. But that's another matter. The table should have had other indications of the type of object, but the remedy for that is to add the missing information, rather than to delete the colors. Now, I'd like to work to fix these problems, but I'd like to see if we can agree on what the accessibility guidelines say before I attempt to do something along those lines, and head off a potential edit war before it can start. Would you review the MOS on table colors, and let me know what you think? P Aculeius (talk) 00:57, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

I was thinking back to the Data Tables Tutorial, which goes over ways to appropriately use color with accessibility in mind. I may have been overzealous, and I have no problem with using more accessible (i.e. higher-contrast) colors within the tables. Feel free to revert and edit, P Aculeius. —A garbage person (talk) 18:23, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

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Please be careful with curly braces

This edit broke at least two templates. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:51, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! I usually proof after adding so many--I'm not sure what happened with this one. —A garbage person (talk) 16:29, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Be careful when adding lots of templates to a page

Wikipedia has a 2MB limit on "post-expansion template size." See the explanation at the top of Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded for details.

When you added the {{lang}} template throughout Family tree of ancient Chinese emperors, it you caused it to exceed the limits. As a result, templates near the bottom of the page do not display properly.

Consider reverting your change for the time being, but perhaps leave one usage so the page is categorized properly.

The proper fix is probably to split the page by era. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 02:09, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

FYI, another editor has reverted your changes due to the "post-expansion template size" issue I mentioned.[1]. If you plan on restoring them, do it in a way that does not cause technical problems with Wikipedia. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:38, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, davidwr. Most of the pages I've edited have been relatively small, so I've never run into this problem before. I've been on a break, so when I dive back in, I'll start with requesting and/or making a page split. —A garbage person (talk) 18:10, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

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My apologies. I've taken it off my to-do list of citation cleanup. —A garbage person (talk) 19:30, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

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