User talk:99MJM1

August 2019

Your addition to United Daughters of the Confederacy has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. Acroterion (talk) 00:07, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at United Daughters of the Confederacy, you may be blocked from editing. Thank you. Acroterion (talk) 00:25, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Acroterion,

I am trying to edit and wrote the page to be a factual representation of the United Daughters of the Confederacy (UDC). You have said I’m having copyright problems; you have now protected the United Daughters of the Confederacy (UDC) page and hidden content. The page was not written by a UDC member, and I would like to factual update the page and truthfully represent the organization. By your actions, I most be doing something wrong. If you could assist me in resolving these issues, it would be appreciated.

99MJM1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99MJM1 (talk • contribs) 01:40, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

You're removing all of the references and copying in something from the UDC website, so you're removing sources and content and violating copyright. There's a talkpage available for you to discuss your edits first. Please review the extensive discussions there, it will give you a better understanding about how the article got to its present form and why it says what it says. Wikipedia relies on what mainstream sources say about organizations, not what they say about themselves. Acroterion (talk) 01:43, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Read the archives too [1] [2]. Acroterion (talk) 02:31, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the first time I did . . . was not thinking. But I’m not coping from the website and stating factual information; such as The United Daughters of the Confederacy (UDC) is an organization of women who are lineal or collateral blood descendants of Confederate veterans who fought to determine the sovereignty of the newly formed Confederate States of America. A charitable organization that promotes historic preservation, education, benevolence, and patriotism. Those are my words based on factual information. With regards to mainstream sources . . . and copyrights . . . the page is regurgitating word-for-word articles written on the websites. And many organizations have created Wikipedia pages, and not others. So, thank you for the direction, I’ll go and read it. But I hope you reconsider and unlock the page so that I may edited based on factual information about the organization and not those who are spouting hatred and regurgitating mainstream as their sources, which are not based on anything factual evidence.

Thank you for the links . . . that is crazy!! I’m asking you, what can we do as UDC to update this page from credible resources that can be accessed to verify our history and so forth?

Acroterion, thank you for your time!

If you're a member, you should make a clear declaration, since you will have a conflict of interest. Please see WP:COI for best practices.

As for editing, the fact that the UDC was involved in the creation of many Confederate memorials, which are now the subject of controversy, and the UDC's motivations in their creation, are the subjects of much recent coverage of the UDC in academic and journalistic sources. Wikipedia, as an encyclopedia, reflects scholarly and journalistic analysis, and doesn't function as a mirror of what any organization says about itself or how that organization wishes to be perceived. Acroterion (talk) 02:49, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Acroterion for all the help, you have a great night!