User talk:95.168.107.11

August 2022

Hello, I'm PhantomTech. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to Franko Kovačević—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. PhantomTech[talk] 22:56, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

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This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date. You have shown interest in the Russo-Ukrainian War. Due to past disruption in this topic area, the community has authorised uninvolved administrators to impose contentious topics restrictions—such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks—on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, expected standards of behaviour, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic. For additional information, please see the guidance on these sanctions. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

Please note that you are disallowed from making edits to this topic space, as you are not an extended confirmed user.⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 21:57, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Please note that you should not lie so blatantly a out sources by asserting it was not referenced when it is referenced as evident by hyperlinks in article by 38North that you removed reference from "Pongae-6" article when there is no source to support it being Pongar-6 yet apparently you know what system is designated and not North Korea themselves despite fact 38North article links to KCNA article that discloses designation of the system. Regards from me who somewhere else on net was first to point out official designation of what was refered to as M2020. 95.168.107.11 (talk) 09:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

This is going to be your only warning to cease making personal attacks. Accusing others of "lying" is a personal attack. Your edits were reverted because they were not supported by the source you were claiming. If this disruptive behavior continues, you will be blocked from further editing. Regards from me. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 16:45, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Your accusation of me being disruptive is outright false as is assertion those sources I referenced do not support what you assert as "my claim" when it is directly what North Korea stated about their own system. Are you going to assert North Korea does not know themselves about designation for their own surface to air missile system?

You are in fact being disruptive in here by disregarding sources that do in fact support "Pon'gae-6" being Pyoljji-1-2 yet you insist it is "Pon'gae-6" despite fact origin of supposed designation for that SAM is from GlobalSecurity website that is depreciated by Wikipedia. Yet here we are you accusing me of being disruptive. While you force invalid claim. 95.168.107.11 (talk) 17:34, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

You have provided no sources that support your claim that the two are the same system -- neither of the links you provided even mentions Pon'gae-6. The page is titled Pon'gae-6. If you have an issue with the page name, you need to go through the appropriate process and request a page move, not continuously vandalize the article by disruptively changing the name. The next time you do so, you're going to be blocked from editing. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 18:18, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Do not accuse me of vandalizing an article when you continuously do very thing you accuse me of by forcing "Pon'gae-6" as name of system that North Korea declared designation of as Pyoljji-1-2 as too in very article of "Pon'gae-6" vast majority of references are directly about Pyoljji-1-2 when not discussing Pon'gae-5.

Your assertion has no merit as very sources contradict your assertion unless you did not bother to read sources and look at dates as all of them are involving Pyoljji-1-2 whose designation was not disclosed until April 19th of 2024. Whole premise of "Pon'gae-6" relies upon depreciated GlobalSecurity website making assertion of Pyoljji-1-2 being "Pon'gae-6" before it was disclosed by North Korea as being designated Pyoljji-1-2.

I provide sources to support it unlike you that does not yet put on burden on me to do so when I already do and then ask me to go through appropriate process when you do not at all along force depreciated source on which that page was built on. Instead of correcting you choose to maintain incorrect information.

Because you force your own opinion as fact without providing sources unlike me that relies upon sources and their claims unlike your claim having no basis at all yet you accuse me of vandalism while you're doing it. 95.168.107.11 (talk) 18:50, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Pon'gae-6 is quite literally the current name for the article. Again, if you have an issue with the page name, you must use the appropriate process to resolve that. You cannot unilaterally change the name in the article and cite a source that does not actually directly support your claim for the name change. You are not listening to what you're being told -- the source you provided does not state that Pyoljji-1-2 is the same thing as Pon'gae-6; thus it cannot be used to update the lede sentence name from Pon'gae-6 to Pyoljji-1-2. Further, the changes you were making violate our manual of style for article ledes. You were warned to stop, and you continued to do so. This is textbook disruptive editing. I'm glad that you've finally chosen to discuss your edits the appropriate way. But if the disruption returns, there will not be further warnings -- you've already been adequately warned as to what you're doing wrong and why it needed to stop. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 20:48, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

November 2024

Hello, I'm Swatjester. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Pongae-6, but the source cited did not support that content. It has been removed for now, but if you would like to include a citation that verifies the content and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 16:44, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Except sources cited do in fact support "Pon'gae-6" being Pyoljji-1-2 yet it is not enough for it considered to be valid despite coming straight from North Korean press release on KCNA, since you removed it for second time in a row then I guess you read it and checked all sources including hyperlinks yet somehow missed designation clearly being stated by North Korea on the system.

You insisting on own claim that it is "Pon'gae-6" and not Pyoljji-1-2 despite former being from GlobalSecurity, but I guess you disagree with Wikipedia depreciating GlobalSecurity as valid source to reference. 95.168.107.11 (talk) 17:39, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Pongae-6. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 18:15, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Provide source that designation of system is "Pon'gae-6" and not Pyoljji-1-2 instead of asking me to provide sources when you do not provide them as you insist on surface to air missile system being "Pon'gae-6" according to your own opinion without any source to prove it unlike I have provided sources as references including directly from press release that North Korean news agency KNCA has released on April 19th/20th of 2024. Will you continue to assert that system in question is designated Pon'gae-6 along not provide source which even if you did try you would end up having those showing Pyoljji-1-2 whenever containing images of it. 95.168.107.11 (talk) 19:13, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Pon'gae-6 is quite literally the current name for the article. Again, if you have an issue with the page name, you must use the appropriate process to resolve that. You cannot unilaterally change the name in the article and cite a source that does not actually directly support your claim for the name change. You are not listening to what you're being told -- the source you provided does not state that Pyoljji-1-2 is the same thing as Pon'gae-6; thus it cannot be used to update the lede sentence name from Pon'gae-6 to Pyoljji-1-2. Further, the changes you were making violate our manual of style for article ledes. You were warned to stop, and you continued to do so. This is textbook disruptive editing. I'm glad that you've finally chosen to discuss your edits the appropriate way. But if the disruption returns, there will not be further warnings -- you've already been adequately warned as to what you're doing wrong and why it needed to stop. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 20:48, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

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