User talk:81.158.74.138

May 2020

Hi there - Wikipedia relies on reliable sources to verify information, especially about living people. You didn't provide a source for your changes to the Abe Rosenthal article, and I couldn't find one either. If you have a reliable source please let me know and we can change the article. Please let me know if you have any questions. GiantSnowman 17:07, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Please tell me where Wikipedia publishes sources for a subject's full name? Or is this just something you started today? If you don't accept the change, I don't care. I am trying to make Wikipedia more accurate. You have just made it less accurate. If I had the time and desire, I would give you hundreds of shocking football errors in Wikipedia pages, all with flawed and erroneous sources. But it is because of editors like you that I don't. The fact you couldn't find a source for the change I made makes me wonder how good you are at research. I will give you a clue: the National Archives. Heard of them?

I've found a source which shows his full name - and it's different to the one you added. GiantSnowman 18:32, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

What did I add? And what did you add?

You said his full name was 'Abraham Wallace Rosenthal' - the source I found confirms it is 'Abram Wallace Rosenthal'. GiantSnowman 18:42, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

It depends if you go by his birth certificate (Abraham) or his death certificate (Abram). Lots of Jewish men shortened their names (Avram Grant, the former Chelsea manager, being an example). It is clear, however, that is birth name was Abraham Wallace Rosenthal. Look, I understand you don't want to accept that I was right. You're probably a bit embarrassed. But my experience here proves that Wikipedia is less interested in accuracy than it is preserving the control and egos of its editors.

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