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There was no intent to plagiarise the NHS website. However, the article, as it stands, gives a very inaccurate account of the History of Alder Hey. Perhaps it could be re-included albeit paraphrased. I will not be doing that work as I have experience of the interminable inability of some Wikipedia Editors to utterly refuse to engage with change. The reedit I would suggest would be as follows:

The West Derby Board of Poor Law Guardians purchased the mansion and estates that now constitute Alder Hey in 1910. The Guardians intended to build a new workhouse including an area care of paupers’ sick children. By July 1914, A new modern hospital was completed opening in October 1914.

I suspect I failed to save the edited version above. Such things happen.

As the words "Board of Poor Law Guardians" and "Workhouse" and "Paupers" and "Modern Hospital" all have specific technical meaning - in the context of Social History of the NHS - they bear inclusion. They are rather more important points than the existence of a Military Hospital for two to three years. The role of Alder Hey in Military History is interesting but the existence of U.S. American National Red Cross Hospital No.4 and U.S. American National Red Cross Hospital No.40 in Liverpool are not really the main focus in discussing Alder Hey. Perhaps they might form articles elsewhere. Althoug that might be outrage and "original research" and therefore forbidden. They are interesting just not that relevant to the history of the Hospital. I have zero belief that this or any other edit will make an appearance in the article. This being the normal course of events when Wikipedia Editors dislike an edit. Onwards to oblivion.

Should you be interested in the Military History of the Liverpool Hospitals, you would do worse than invest some time in the book "The Passing Legions", GB Fife, Macmillan 1920. There are several good books documenting the History of Alder Hey. They are, unfortunately for Wikipedia, all Primary Sources and would constitute original research. The NHS Website does give a strong source of Secondary Sources that suggests the American Red Cross were of much less importance. 77.97.140.58 (talk) 19:56, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

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