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Happy editing! Jacona (talk) 19:12, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

July 2024

it looks like we are in a slow edit war at the Eusuchia page. Can you please use edit summaries or the talk page to try to explain your edits? I'm all for discussion and trying to come to a consensus, but you gotta meet me half way, and try to explain the reasons for the edits you are making. Thanks. Cougroyalty (talk) 15:08, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are we?

I'd like to get a source for Atoposaurids being in Eusuchia. I've seen them recovered as sister to Paralligatorids but I have no memory of where. The Confractosuchus phylogeny has it in a clade with Bernissartids and Susisuchids so I figured they should be added too. I also don't know the point of listing Acynodon? separately under Hylaeochampsidae when it could just be added to the taxon list under their own article. 74.101.255.131 (talk) 23:21, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, in regards to Acynodon, I had it separate because it was unclear to me whether or not is was actually considered to be a member of Hylaeochampsidae. Our own wikipedia pages do not show that to be the case. The 2018 Lee & Yates study showed it separate (but closely related), but the 2021 Rio & Mannion study showed Acynodon as a member of Hylaeochampsidae. Other studies and cladograms I looked at simply do not show Hylaeochampsidae. I did some quick searching, and I did find a study that recovered Atoposauridae, Bernissartiidae, Paralligatoridae, and Susisuchidae as members of Eusuchia,^[1] although this does not appear to be the consensus, so I am fine with adding them back but with question marks. Cougroyalty (talk) 17:56, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Schwarz, Daniela; Raddatz, Maik; Wings, Oliver (2017). "Knoetschkesuchus langenbergensis gen. nov. sp. nov., a new atoposaurid crocodyliform from the Upper Jurassic Langenberg Quarry (Lower Saxony, northwestern Germany), and its relationships to Theriosuchus". PLOS ONE. 12 (2): e0160617. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0160617.

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[1] Schwarz, Daniela; Raddatz, Maik; Wings, Oliver (2017). "Knoetschkesuchus langenbergensis gen. nov. sp. nov., a new atoposaurid crocodyliform from the Upper Jurassic Langenberg Quarry (Lower Saxony, northwestern Germany), and its relationships to Theriosuchus". PLOS ONE. 12 (2): e0160617. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0160617.

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