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August 2013

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Information icon Hello, I'm Binksternet. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Joseph Stilwell, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 02:12, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Information icon Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Template:Muhammad timeline in Mecca, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 02:13, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by misrepresenting sources, as you did at Joseph Stilwell, you may be blocked from editing. Binksternet (talk) 03:30, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Your cited reason makes no sense. How does his regret in not able to fight along side with a communist general be contrary to his admiration of the Chinese Communist Party? Not to mention, his personal believe that the Chinese Communist army was willing to fight but the KMT wasn't itself was a personal bias since the CCP was even less interested in fighting the Japanese than the KMT was at that stage of the war. How is criticizing his personal erroneous impression non-neutral? You first rejected the edition because there was no source so I added the source. You haven't read the source so you just rejected it as NPOV violation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.34.133.249 (talkcontribs)

I have read two Stilwell biographies and they both say the same thing: Stilwell was contemptuous of the Nationalist Chinese will to fight the Japanese. He thought the various Nationalist generals and warlords had assessed the dual problems of the Japanese invasion from the east and the Communists fighting from the north, and had come to the conclusion that the Japanese would eventually lose their war with the Allies. After that, the Communists would still be around, and they would still be fighting with the Nationalists. Each warlord/general, in Stilwell's opinion, was amassing arms and men, waiting to fight the Communists, and jockeying for personal power. Author Robert Garson wrote in the book The United States and China Since 1949: A Troubled Affair that the Japanese were not the major threat: "By contrast the Communist forces in the north, under the dynamic leadership of Mao Zedong, were inflicting serious damage and were gaining strength. Stilwell admired their fighting spirit." This does not mean he wished that he was a Communist, or that he wished to fight alongside them because he agreed with their political goals—he certainly did not. Author Young Hum Kim wrote in the book East Asia's Turbulent Century: With American Diplomatic Documents that "Stilwell wanted to deploy maximum available forces of all kinds against the Japanese in offensive operation. As he saw it, the Communists were better and more effective fighters than the Nationalists; he saw no reason that the Communists should not be given American support in their war effort against the Japanese." Author Clyde V. Prestowitz wrote in the book Rogue Nation: American Unilateralism And The Failure Of Good Intentions that "Stilwell found the Communists disciplined, tough, and eager to fight the Japanese [but] he found Chiang's soldiers unfed and unpaid because the generals stole the money, and deployed more against the communists than against the Japanese."
Your change to the article included Stilwell expressing the wish to fight alongside Chinese Communist soldiers. He did not say that, according to English sources. Just before leaving China for the last time, Stilwell wrote a note to Zhu De to say that he felt "keen disappointment" not to be associated "with you and the excellent troops you have developed" in operations against Japan. This is not at all the same as wanting to fight alongside Zhu De, especially to fight for communist causes. I reverted your wording because it could be interpreted this way, the wrong way. Binksternet (talk) 05:02, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

June 2016

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Information icon Hello, I'm EvergreenFir. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to KPOO has been undone because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 16:51, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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