User talk:72.142.101.86

July 2021

[Regarding edits to Leopold II of Belgium.]

Revision undone, the facts are clear. That is why it says "an estimated 10 to 15 million" rather than an exact number. i.e. taken from the account on 'Hitler " the genocide of about six million Jews and millions of other victims" another estimation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.142.101.86 (talk) 16:04, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Two problems here. First, Wikipedia is not considered a reliable source by itself, so Hitler is not a valid reference. Second, as you can see in the article, there are referenced sources (primarily from Belgian historians) that argue that the death toll was much lower. While I agree that the evidence favors the higher numbers, the Belgian references can't be ignored. This is why the article discusses both. Thus the summary at the top of the article can't just include the higher estimates.

In situations like this, where an edit you make has been reverted, rather than make it again, you should open a discussion on the article's talk page. (Use the "New section" tab at the head of the talk page.) That way the issue can be discussed without multiple edits to the article itself. Also, on talk pages (like your remark above), remember to sign your remarks by adding four tildes (~~~~), which automatically gets converted to your signature when you save the edit.

-- Elphion (talk) 19:44, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

August 2021

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Inappropriate editing

Re your comment, dumped into Leopold II of Belgium: I already invited you (above) to discuss this on the article's talk page. This is where such discussions are supposed to take place, not via edits within the article itself. On Wikipedia, individual editors are not the arbiters of truth: Reliable sources are. You have not submitted a reliable source, and you are ignoring reliable sources that take the opposite side. You may feel that the sources arguing for higher casualty figures are closer to the truth (and I tend to agree with you), but professional historians point to other evidence and circumstances, and point out that the regime may not bear responsibility for all of the deaths. As editors, our task is to present both sides in a neutral way. That can include pointing out that one side has better evidence than the other; indeed the very paragraph after the one you edited points out exactly that. So I have to wonder whether you've actually read the article, and I simply don't see where you get off trashing the motives of other editors of this article. Your behavior here is simply unacceptable, and if you don't develop a more collaborative style of editing, you will probably find yourself blocked. -- Elphion (talk) 19:52, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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