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Edmond H. Fischer

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Consider the following example. I would expect a "French Nobel Laureate" to be either of French nationality, descent, or permanently resident in France. It seems to me unjustified for France to claim as her own a Russian Nobel laureate who happened to have been born in France, and spent some early years there.--Palaeoviatalk 04:35, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are the Chinese so desperate?--Palaeoviatalk 04:48, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WikihHolic, who I presume (without evidence) is Chinese, claimed Pearl S. Buck (besides Edmond H. Fischer) as a Shanghai Nobel laureate. I am sorry to have been a little annoyed by this claim. Is this an act of desperate boosterism? Shanghai should be confident enough of its past glory (and shame) and future promise without such absurd promotion. :)--Palaeoviatalk 08:03, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't know Pearl S. Buck. I have been told that wiki is banned in china, so probably shanghai or those shanghainese people don't really care about it. (5467buddy (talk) 13:14, 14 May 2010 (UTC))[reply]
However, if that Buck lived in shanghai for many years ... ? ... that's even more complicated ... (5467buddy (talk) 13:20, 14 May 2010 (UTC))[reply]
There are many mainland Chinese Wikipedians (presumably living outside China) engaging in edit wars with Taiwanese Wikipedians. Voices from mainland China can be heard loud and clear here.
Pearl Buck had never lived in Shanghai, to the best of my knowledge. ;)--Palaeoviatalk 22:32, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Taiwnese stuffs i don't really know coz im a new bird of wiki. So im quite out of this meaningless endless chinese-taiwnese stuff. About the American writer, i just phoned & checked libraries, indeed that Buck once lived in shanghai. Buck when she was a girl took school in shanghai possibly named Jewell Miss School now a teaching building 'still there. with her husband Buck and two daughters they lived in shanghai for a period of time. in shanghai she had business with Lin Yutang, also a writer but chinese/taiwnese which i don't care. so i guess ur british mathematical knowledge 'bout that Buck was wrong. (5467buddy (talk) 21:17, 15 May 2010 (UTC))[reply]
My idea is that Buck better not b categorized into shanghai nobelists since she stayed in shanghai only for a relatively short period of time compared to her whole life. otherwise wud b very complicated for the other nobel winners if every1 does so. (5467buddy (talk) 21:33, 15 May 2010 (UTC))[reply]
"took school" is not idiomatic. I will check. By the way, I'm neither British nor a Sinophobe. Quite the contrary. And you can quote me sources in Chinese.
碧云天,黄叶地。秋色连波,波上寒烟翠。山映斜阳天接水。芳草无情,更在斜阳外。--Palaeoviatalk 21:58, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to this detailed chronology, Pearl Buck did not attend any school in Shanghai as a girl. She attended Chongshi Girls' School (崇实女子中学) in Zhenjiang.--Palaeoviatalk 22:27, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is Buck's childhood association with Shanghai: "During the Boxer Uprising, Caroline (the mother) and the children evacuated to Shanghai, where they spent several anxious months waiting for word of Absalom's (the father's) fate. Later that year, the family returned to the US for another home leave." ([1])--Palaeoviatalk 22:48, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"In 1909, Buck enrolled in Miss Jewell's School in Shanghai. ... In 1910 Buck returned to America and enrolled in Randolph Macon Woman's College in Lynchburg, Virginia." [2] I was ignorant of her spell of finishing school in Shanghai.--Palaeoviatalk 23:44, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It should be obvious that I raised the PRC-Taiwan issue to refute your point that "wiki is banned in china, so probably shanghai or those shanghainese people don't really care about it." I am not assuming that you are or will be interested in the issue.--Palaeoviatalk 02:10, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]