User talk:2A04:4A43:4DBF:E9A1:E5D0:6D79:AD75:4F4A

Citation Needed Tag

Hello, Thanks for your edits to Wikipedia! Please ensure you read WP:TAGBOMB andWP:NEEDCITE before adding Citation Needed tags to parts of Wikipedia. Your recent edit on South Kensington is appreciated, but the embassies and consulates was explained further in the article and was not something that required a citation, therefore not requiring a tag. I encourage you to continue editing the encyclopaedia, as editors are greatly appreciated. Feel free to read Help:Getting started for more help.

Thank you! echidnaLives (talk) 08:03, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@EchidnaLives: thank you for reviewing the article. Could you point me to where it explains about embassies and what the relation is to Kensington Palace? 2A04:4A43:4DBF:E9A1:E5D0:6D79:AD75:4F4A (talk) 08:23, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

Apologies, I should have looked into the article more. I saw Iranian Embassy Siege and just thought it was talking about the embassies in the area.

However, as it is in the lead section, and is not controversial, or a quote, it doesn't require a citation or a ^{[citation needed]}. You can read more at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section#Citations. I should of explained this further in the inital message, so that's on me, sorry.

Again, thanks for your contributions, and thanks for replying for clarification. echidnaLives (talk) 08:39, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@EchidnaLives: Actually it is controversial because of the claim being made, irrespective of whether it is in the lede. It is an odd thing to claim that embassies are located there because of Kensington Palace, which has an inferior rank compared to Buckingham Palace or St James' Palace. It is ludicrous to suggest that foreign dignitaries would site their embassy close to a minor palace rather than the palace where the king lives and works or the palace where the ambassador is accredited to. This is why I felt it needed a citation and I will be reinstating it unless you can expand on why it is obvious that Kensington Palace is the magnet for embassies. 2A04:4A43:4DBF:E9A1:E5D0:6D79:AD75:4F4A (talk) 08:59, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again,

I agree with the point you are making, however ^{[citation needed]} should still not be used in the lead section. I would recommend deleting the claim from the lead section, or changing Kensington Palace to something different like "Central London" or "Palace of Westminster". If you have any more questions, just reply again, and I can help/clarify.

Thanks, echidnaLives (talk) 09:16, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You could also use the following if it is appropriate.

echidnaLives (talk) 09:19, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@EchidnaLives: the last time I tried deleting a dubious claim, I was told off and threatened with a block (which sadly seems to be a common behaviour on Wikipedia these days). Instead I wanted to question the authenticity of the claim. I see nothing at Wikipedia:Citation needed to suggest it cannot be used in the lede. Is this guideline found elsewhere in the MOS perhaps? As for your suggestion of changing it… sorry but sigh 🤦‍♀️. The article is about one district in Central London, which contains many other districts. The Palace of Westminster is nowhere near South Kensington (only 4 miles away in a different local government area). That is the same as suggesting a mention of Sydney Harbor Bridge could be replaced by mentioning Sydney in general or that someone living in East Gippsland could be described as living in South Gippsland because of their proximity and similarity of names. 2A02:C7C:ACA7:4600:9DEE:4B99:DBFE:6887 (talk) 09:55, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You can find some information at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section#Citations. As for changing it, I understand they aren't really close, but I was only using it as an example, because it is only about 3.5km away, unlike East and South Gippsland which are completely different regions. Anyways, deleting the sentence shouldn't be a problem. As long as you explain why you are deleting it, nobody should question it. And if someone does, you can open a discussion on the talk page or their user page.

Thanks. echidnaLives (talk) 10:17, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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