User talk:2601:152:301:9C1E:9057:12E:132:D3A9
November 2024
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. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:42, 16 November 2024 (UTC)2601:152:301:9C1E:9057:12E:132:D3A9 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
No spam links have been posted. 2601:152:301:9C1E:9057:12E:132:D3A9 (talk) 23:47, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Per Graywalls comment below, a link to a page where you can purchase the source is not at all useful here and smells like promotion. To be unblocked, you'll need to agree to stop posting links like that. OhNoitsJamie Talk 23:18, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
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Huh?
[edit]- @HJ Mitchell: Huh? I've posted no spam links. In fact, I've spent the afternoon removing spam links. Please explain.2601:152:301:9C1E:9057:12E:132:D3A9 (talk) 23:47, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Removing existing spam link is an improvement. Replacing them with something that benefits themselves/company is malicious editing. Their argument in unconvincing and use of potentially unauthorized bot is likely given unreasonable changes like editing someone else's sandbox Graywalls (talk) 23:57, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Okay ... Graywalls 2601:152:301:9C1E:9057:12E:132:D3A9 (talk) 00:11, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Removing existing spam link is an improvement. Replacing them with something that benefits themselves/company is malicious editing. Their argument in unconvincing and use of potentially unauthorized bot is likely given unreasonable changes like editing someone else's sandbox Graywalls (talk) 23:57, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Wikilinked an article to an orphan article on Cuban history
- added an interlanguage link to an existing article on Cuban history
- added a better reference
- Removed an angelfire website and replace with a reliable source.
- Cleaned up a reference
@HJ Mitchell: You reversed everything I've worked on this afternoon. As for the angelfire linked book, I refer you to this: Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_383#Is_this_self-published_book_a_RS?. I have no affiliation with the publisher, but I set to remove the old link to the angelfire book and replace it with a newer version of the book. I also have to affiliation to Jose Marti.
- @HJ Mitchell: Please go back and fix what you did. Thank you. 2601:152:301:9C1E:9057:12E:132:D3A9 (talk) 00:11, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's fairly easy to mass-revert my mass revert. But you need to explain why your link is an improvement to the encyclopaedia and why you were making such widespread changes that users were concerned you were running a bot. But you'll have to explain it to another admin because it's past midnight here. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:19, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
@HJ Mitchell: I just saw your comment about blacklisting here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#IP_spammer_spamming_product_purchasing_link_to_Boyscount_guidebook. Let me explain. I saw that this book was listed everywhere:
- Hook, James; Franck, Dave; Austin, Steve (2003). An Aid to Collecting Selected Council Shoulder Patches with Valuation.
I replace the 20 year old link hosted an angelfire to the version now published:
- Austin, Steve; Keasey, Blake (2014). An Aid to Collecting Selected Council Shoulder Patches with Valuation. International Scouting Collectors Association.
The book I replaced the angelfire link with is published by the International Scouting Collectors Association. Gray whales didn't bother asking. There is no malicious intent here. If you like the angelfire link ... so be it. I tried. 2601:152:301:9C1E:9057:12E:132:D3A9 (talk) 00:20, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- You were editing at least one talk archive page and many talk pages and that is considered not bad form (editing other people's comments in a talk page is considered not legit with a few exceptions that don't include updating links or replacing entire books [this one had a different author so you weren't just fixing a link]). You were also editing in another person's sandbox also bad form unless invited to do so (again with a few exceptions). Erp (talk) 01:28, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- What it boils down to is that all of this could have been avoided by edit summaries of the form "Updating non-RS angelfire link" or something like that. We're way sensitive about spamming here, and your efficiency obviously set off red flags. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 01:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- What this boils down to is that I think a script was used and let run wild to insert a specific URL which has potentials to raise search ranking and the link is of a type which poses enticement risk of $39 product purchase that will likely result in monetary gain by some party. Since it didn't direct to specific contents, but to a product buying landing page and the way in which the link was disseminated, it's more likely than not there was search ranking and/or purchase promotion motive behind it. What adds insult to this is that it's a self-published book that fails WP:RS, so it was renewing garbage that should have been taken out with a refreshed garbage. Graywalls (talk) 01:51, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
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