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The welcome is a nice gesture [[User::JJMC89]] but I need help again, please. I’ve already had a fairly horrible experience on this site. User:Wolfdog and User:Grayfell are being very hostile, while I tried to mention a error in not having English in New Mexico be titled appropriately New Mexican English. Its the creepiest thing, they seem obsessed with slandering and removing any reference to a production studio called Heaven Sent Gaming, they aren’t even listening to me suggesting that someone contact them about it. I don’t really care about any of that, and quite frankly, it seems that they are frantically trying to connect me to spamming or something, just because the 2600 range was blocked beforehand. They are jumping to like a million conclusions, talking down to me, and even mocking me. They also refused to any of the academic research clearly referencing “New Mexican English”, just because it goes against a weird fixation on their presumed white New Mexican English differences. Not fun. 2600Texan (talk) 22:01, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- Since you added usernames as links, I assume you are already familiar with WP:PING. I believe you were attempting to notify User:JJMC89, but typos prevented this from going through.
- So what would be the purpose in contacting Heaven Sent Gaming? What would that accomplish? Grayfell (talk) 22:18, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
I was aware of user contacting because of spam that was happening here on Texas and Sprint PCS IP users were blocked in Texas, me among them. I’m glad to know that User links notify people that helps. The reason I suggest contacting Heaven Sent Gaming is because after reading what happened with them it sounds like it might have involved a disgruntled associate of theirs, and other Wikipedia users agreed that it was likely other people on their team, and not User:Smile Lee directly. They might be able to provide a list of users associated with that issue, and especially since they had appearently also not wanted Wikipedia links as well, it seems that they were combatting spam as well, probably from a former associate of theirs. Perhaps trying to communicate would allow both side insure that the type of spam that was occurring doesn’t happen on either of your sites again. Back to the topic on hand, I just want to normalize the seeming contextual agreement in those academic papers that refer to New Mexican English, as it seems to be the most commonly agreed title for the regional language. I tried to search from New Mexico English in scholarly papers, but I don’t see it, and English in New Mexico seems for just discuss English language in general in New Mexico as opposed to discussing natively spoken English within New Mexico. 2600Texan (talk) 01:23, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- Technical evidence demonstrated that it was Smile Lee, not some hypothetical associate. Other editors may have humored the possibility it was an associate out of good faith, but by now, that window has closed. Since the site is not reliable, at all, it can and should be removed on sight. Heaven Sent Gaming was not combating a spam problem. They are a spam problem. I have been looking into the site to make sure this wasn't some terrible mistake, and that the site isn't actually usable. It is not. I am more convinced then ever that this is non-notable, and unreliable, for many reasons.
- Normally the place to discuss the name of the article would the article's talk page. This was already discussed there, and the consensus was to move it to its current location. A new argument would have to be based on some new perspective or new insight, which hasn't happened yet. Grayfell (talk) 05:30, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
You are presuming that it was Smile Lee and wasn’t a hypothetical associate, and you are presuming their website wasn’t combating spam. Technical evidence can be misleading, especially with organizations because IP adresses and devices are unreliably exchanged. No windows have closed as the other editors that thought, the same as I do, it was more than likely that it was someone else in their team. Their site is usable, and it is obviously not spam. I can see their websites, and even if their site weren’t usable, their contact information is freely available on several places, and I can even find more references to them beside the mentioned Albuquerque Journal and KRQE, in particular an interview with their President in the independent Spectrum magazine https://spectrummagazine.org/article/2017/10/11/heaven-sent-gaming-picks-global-fans and an interview with their Editor in the July issue of Albuquerque the Magazine, their HSG acronym and founding date is even officially listed in the Acronym Finder https://www.acronymfinder.com/HSG.html. I wasn’t even trying to search that hard and if they were unreliable, one of the several local and national professional publications would have taken issue, which they didn’t. Again back to the topic of New Mexican English, even if there was consensus beforehand for moving away from New Mexican English, I brought up completely new academic and scholarly sources that reliably show the term New Mexican English, and even make simple conclusions about a regional New Mexican English. The viral video “Shit Burqueños (New Mexicans) Say” has also been continually ignored in these discussions, I bring it up because as I’ll repeat the person Lauren Poole who acted in them did an interview with PBS https://video.klru.tv/video/colores-colores-september-20th-2013/ and did New Mexican English for a lecture at UNM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzhMLDvdrkQ. 2600Texan (talk) 08:35, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
wtf
[edit]Now I’m banned because I’m someone named Rusty22? This is ridiculous, this is my first account! I quit having an account on this “community”, I’ve been back to anonymous editing for a while now anyway, this was a terrible experience. I guess I can’t even work on my drafts anymore. They should’ve contacted Smile Lee, but they’re on some type of witch-hunt, so they can remain ignorant. I did research into Grayfell, apparently he’s known for this type of witch-hunt conduct on this website. 2600Texan (talk) 12:06, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
I can’t even respond on the discussion page to proclaim my innocence. All of the reasonings I had on that page were ignored, what a waste of time. They simply shrugged it off because of minor correlations with some other account. The account I was supposedly tied with hasn’t even been active for years. As I said a billion other times, they should contact Smile Lee and work this bullshit out, instead of berating newbies like myself, but that request will again fall on deaf ears because they have some type of sus agenda. 2600Texan (talk) 12:13, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
User:ST47 I am not Rusty22, Smile Lee, or any other user for that matter. This is my first and only account. I, as with other users, do not think Smile Lee was the sockpuppet master either, and I think that is the reason for a false positive like this one. I will say again that contacting Smile Lee (Mario J. Lucero), which his contact information is easily available on his website, would help address this issue. He has said on sites like his Wikipedia talk page and his LinkedIn that he would like to fix this, and as you mentioned the age of the accounts, it kind of proves that this is not some type of concerted effort on anyone’s part or, at the least, not the effort of Smile Lee. And I will again say, this is my first and only account. 2600Texan (talk) 22:40, 13 April 2019 (UTC)