User talk:24.116.90.157

November 2023

Hello, I'm REDACTED403. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to New Mexican cuisine have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. REDACTED403 (talk) 00:49, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

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Sorry, I did not mean to sound promotional. Can you show me what was wrong so I do not do it again? 24.116.90.157 (talk) 00:54, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

There were several issues with the changes you made at the New Mexican cuisine article. I don't want to this sound excessively critical, but I will walk through them in detail.

• You cannot just change text that is cited to a specific source and make it look like that source made those claims, as you did here.
  • If you want to add other material, you have to provide a new source that agrees with the claims you are adding.
  • If you have run into a conflict between sources where one source says X but another source says Y, then it needs to be made clear to the reader that the sources are in conflict about the matter. If you have difficulty with this, raise a discussion about it on the article's talk page laying out what the conflict between the sources is, and more experienced editors can help you put together an encyclopedic summary with due weight given to the sources.
• Next, bizcochito is the correct spelling. A z in Spanish is properly pronounced the same as s. E.g., in Spanish (no matter how English speakers say it), Luiz Gonzales is pronounced as if spelled Luis Gonsales.
• And Julietdeltalima was correct to revert you adding this, which is an unencyclopedic and pedantic claim with no source (and off-topic; this NM article isn't concerned with what a term means in Mexico or Spain or some other country).
• Yes, this was basically promoting a product, the cause of the original notice you received above (and you were also adding claims without a source again).
• And this just added random names, without checking to see where those links go at all. The first is to a music album, the second to a restaurant in Phoenix, the third to one in New York.

The fact that the New Mexican cuisine article has some other claims in it that are not sourced yet is not a problem to add to, and if someone doesn't source them pretty soon, they will also probably be deleted. That article has been on a several people's list of pages to clean up for some time. So trying to just make it agree with your personal notions, without any sources, is not going to work, as you can see by the number of editors reverting your changes. A Wikipedia article is not a blog for publishing opinions.

If you want to get involved in writing the encyclopedia properly, please see the core content policies page, and please create an account; your IP address is likely to change, and so collaboration with you over time would become difficult if you remain an IP-address editor with no account.
 — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  01:47, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

PS: This kind of chat-and-debate posting is not what our talk pages are for; they are only for working on improving the article. And you're "necroposting" in dead, pointless threads that date back to 2012. Wikipedia is not a forum for expressing opinions, venting at people over cultural matters, engaging in debate-as-a-pastime, etc. What I would suggest instead is posting about a specific line-item in that article that you think should change and what sources you have as your basis for the change(s) you want to make. Same goes for any additions you think you should be made. What are the reliable sources for dish in question, saying that it a part of traditional NM cuisine? If you want to add a restaurant to the list, where is Wikipedia's article about it? If there isn't one, we probably would not list it, because it is probably not notable.

If you think the restaurant is notable, then you could try creating an article, with independent reliable sources, about it, e.g. at Draft:Garcia's (New Mexico restaurant). See the Articles for Creation process for help on starting a new article. But establishing a new one about a business is fairly difficult, because most business are not encyclopedically notable, and 99% of attempts to start an article about a business here are blantant spam, so the neutrality and source independence and source quality expectations are quite high.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  01:59, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

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