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Happy editing! Jim1138 (talk) 19:28, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Aluminium alloy

Thanks for all of your additions. I did fix your citation on 8176 (acessdate -> access-date). Also the same ref, though not filled in as well was in the 8000 series table, so I reused it with a WP:NAMEDREFS. Thanks again! Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 19:28, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jim1138: Oops, sorry about the typo, and thanks for the second ref. I was thinking about a redirect from Aluminium alloy 8176 (and Aluminum alloy 8176) to Aluminum building wiring which discusses it at some length. 209.209.238.189 (talk) 01:42, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We all make oopsies. The redirect sounds like a good idea. "High strength wire"? That seems a rather odd term. 8176 is one of the lower yield Al alloys. Perhaps just "electrical wire"?

I knew a guy who worked at a company that made sodium metal wiring harnesses for satellites. Sodium, per pound, is apparently more conductive than copper. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 03:14, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jim1138: Not my words. It is high strength wire in a sense, as it resists creep and non-elastic deformation better than almost all other high-conductivity alloys. But "high-strength wire" implies structural wire rather than electrical, so yes that would be a good change.

Sodium wires? Cu is 16.78 nΩ·m and its density is 8.96 t/m³, a product of 150.35 ohms per something. Al is 28.2 nΩ·m and its density is 2.70 t/m³, a product of 76.14, which us one half by weight. Na is 47.7 nΩ·m and its density is 0.968 t/m³, a product of 46.1736, which is one third of copper by weight.

But its reactivity makes it such a PITA. Also its low melting point (97.8°C) isn't terribly convenient, either. Still, I suppose satellite solar panels and batteries are the sort of low-voltage high-current application which would require thick chunky wire and might save a few ounces. So it is apparently a thing. TIL! 209.209.238.189 (talk) 19:54, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My apology if I implied they were your words. Changed it from "high strength wire" to "electrical wire".

Interesting links. I presume the satellite wouldn't get close to 100°C, but the insulation/sheath are probably high-temperature for space and UV radiation - PTFE or PFA?

The guy mentioned that the cables had a shelf-life of one year. If you couldn't get your satellite launched on schedule, back to the shop... Jim1138 (talk) 20:58, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jim1138: "Not my words": and I didn't intend to sound snippy about it. I was more trying to convey "no need to ask me; I'm not invested in that phrasing." (And WP:OWN, of course.)

"the cables had a shelf-life of one year" That makes sense. Sodium is aggressively hygroscopic, so spending time in the atmosphere is bad for them. Although you'd think they could store the satellite under dry nitrogen to extend that if it wasn't being actively worked on. Thank you! 209.209.238.189 (talk) 06:07, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't sound snippy. I just asked as you seem better acquainted with the terminology.

I was on an Australian construction project in my younger days. Me being American. I was talking to an Aussie, about a small project. I said that I thought aluminum would be a good building material. He said "No, it should be made out of aluminium". I had never heard of the variant before. I suggested aluminum again and he insisted aluminium. I picked up a piece of scrap wire off the ground and asked "what's this". "Aluminium". I said "let's make it out of aluminium". I also caused quite a scandal when after hearing much argument and opinion, I asked "What's America's Cup?" Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 09:47, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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NII

Thanks for checking into the use of NII by the various institutions. The problem is, you can find just about any acronym for anything online, but if it's important for any particular institution (if the institution is popularly known by that acronym), then it should be in the article before its on the disambiguation page. Leschnei (talk) 12:48, 23 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Leschnei: thank you for the feedback and discussion!

Reading WP:DABABBREV and MOS:DABINITIALS, you're right. I had imagined the rules were more like redirects, where common misspellings and name variants were reasonable to include, even if not explicitly mentioned in the target article. I was mostly reacting to the edit comment "items that don't appear to be known as NII", and thinking "they definitely are!"

Another factor is that, while it's definitely undesirable to create a disambiguation page or hatnote just to include an infrequently used initialism, once a 20-entry diambiguation page already exists, my reluctance to add a 21st entry is reduced.

But the real issue for Wikipedia is "does this already have an article to point to?" and "is this initialism commonly enough used that someone might want to search for it?"

In the case of Bituah Leumi, their own web site uses the NII abbreviation, which seems pretty significant. Obviously, they are most commonly referred to in Hebrew, so any Latin-alphabet abbreviation is uncommon, but it appears that if you're referring to the organization in English, the initialism is not uncommon. Personally, I'd think the path from "National Insurance Institute" (which is already in the article) to "NII" is so obvious it doesn't need to be written explicitly, but if the MOS requires it, I'll have to shoehorn it in. Any ideas as to how? The English translation is already wrapped inside parentheses and quotes, so the usual technique of including the abbreviation in parens is awkward.

For the UEFI "network interface identifier", deletion is probably the way to go. The NII initialism is definitely used a lot in that context, viz.

however this is a detail of the UEFI spec that is too low-level for the UEFI article to go into, so should be deleted on the grounds that there's no relevant WP article to point to. There's a stub for UNDI, which is the sub-part of UEFI that the NII protocol relates to, so if I feel like adding details there, that should be the link target.

But after a brief look at the scope of such an addition, I can't be bothered, so you're right: yank it.

(If you want to attempt to document it for WP, I'd recommend starting with the EFI 1.02 specification which is only (!) 494 pages long, rather than the 1084-page EFI 1.10 spec or the current 2575-page monstrosity that is the UEFI specification. NII is described in section 15.2 of the former (page 320 of the PDF), and UNDI in appendix G (page 391 of the PDF).)

209.209.238.189 (talk) 23:24, 23 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is why I dislike acronym pages; either it's obvious like WHO or it's a matter of opinion. I have added acronyms to lots of articles so that they match the disambiguation page. Frequently they are removed by other editors (there appear to be a lot of editors who object to the use of acronyms in general). I agree that Bituah Leumi is clearly called NII and, like you, I couldn't figure out how to put it in. The first sentences of non-English titles tend to be so full of translations and pronunciations that they are nearly impossible to read. I hate to add to the problem. Possibilities:

Bituah Leumi (Hebrew: המוסד לביטוח לאומי‎, HaMossad LeVituach Leumi, lit. "The National Insurance Institute (NII))
Bituah Leumi (Hebrew: המוסד לביטוח לאומי‎, HaMossad LeVituach Leumi, lit. "The National Insurance Institute (or NII))

If someone reverts it, than so be it.

I can't be bothered with UEFI "network interface identifier" either. So I'll remove it. Leschnei (talk) 01:30, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I see you've already done it - excellent. Leschnei (talk) 01:32, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this could be a time to WP:IAR. If slavishly following a rule makes Wikipedia worse, flexibility is justified. I tried anyway. BTW, your examples don't show where the closing quotation mark should go. 209.209.238.189 (talk) 13:32, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

January 2019

Hello, I'm Oshwah. An edit you recently made to ID3 seemed to be a test and has been removed. If you want more practice editing, the sandbox is the best place to do so. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:31, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Oshwah: No, it wasn't a test, and I redid it properly. It was a problem that mangled the formatting of the following section but didn't show up in the preview. I tried to copy the way the previous section did it (as a section edit, because I like the more informative edit comment) but that made a bigger mess (which, again, didn't show up in the section preview!) so I figured out the right fix.

If you care, the issue is that the columns of the table are in separate <div style=float:left> chunks, so a browser can "line-wrap" the table columns. But you want the end of the table to be above the following section, rather than indented in the left margin. I didn't understand the trick properly when I cut & pasted it. 209.209.238.189 (talk) 15:42, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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@Pmj: You're welcome, but I have it on good authority that the cake is a lie. ;-) 209.209.238.189 (talk) 10:25, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@209.209.238.189: I see you, too, are a man of culture. Yol bolsun! --pmj (talk) 12:33, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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