User talk:2001:8003:9008:1301:B9F6:33CE:1491:37AB

April 2020

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Hi friend, please have a look at the article, it includes 21 countries in Oceania, which is clearly wrong. Southeast Asia is not a part of Oceania. Every source on the internet states that there are 14 countries in Oceania. I noticed that you are from Indonesia. Would you consider your country an Oceania country? If you do, then why is Indonesia competing in the Asian Games instead of the Pacific Games? I will revert your work unless you can provide a reliable source stating that Oceania consists of 21 countries, not 14 countries. 2001:8003:9008:1301:B9F6:33CE:1491:37AB (talk) 10:53, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

It is the REGION. Indonesia is a transcontinental country (read List of transcontinental countries), just like Russia (Europe and Asia). Since there are parts of both countries lie on other continents, the countries are not only considered as a whole. If your argument is sporting events they are into, then Israel was once an Asian country, then an OCEANIAN country, and now a European one. Flix11 (talk) 12:59, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

This issue is quite complicated, some people consider Oceania as a region, which Australia (continent) is a subregion of it. Some people consider Oceania as a continent, but whether it is a continent or a geographic region, Southeast Asia is not included. I know Indonesia is technically a transcontinental country (which is true), but Indonesia only has two provinces (Papua and West Papua) located in Oceania and it is generally considered an Asian country due to political and cultural reasons. Indonesia not only participates in Asian sports tournaments, they are also part of various Asian organisations across all fields and professions. Similar examples are Egypt (which has a small piece of land in Asia) and the United States (which has one state in Oceania), both countries are generally considered as African and North American countries respectively.

As for Israel and Russia, Israel is an Asian country, their sports teams are forced to play in European competitions due to political reasons. Russia is technically a transcontinental country (Europe and Asia), but the UN classifies it as an Eastern European country due to similar reasons like Indonesia.

Most sources state that Oceania has 14 countries plus a dozen or so territories, including two Indonesian provinces as well as several American, French, British and NZ overseas territories. I think we should stick to these sources. 2001:8003:9008:1301:B9F6:33CE:1491:37AB (talk) 15:31, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

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