User talk:199.36.12.19

ECPI University

Hi. I notice that you keep undoing edits which roll back your edits regarding whether ECPI is a for-profit institution. Please use the edit summary when you do so. In particular, is it your claim that this institution is not for-profit? Please cite your sources. Or is it your claim that it is either irrelevant or to be hidden? In either case, please make your case on the article's talk page. Llamabr (talk) 14:19, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Yes, to answer your question, the for-profit aspect is not relevant. Some of your editors seem to have a bias against for-profit schools. I would submit that each institution or organization should stand on its own merit. For example, most people do not care whether a hospital is for profit or not. They are only concerned with the facility's outcome. The same should apply to schools. The for-profit sector has good actors and bad ones. The same can be said for non-profit schools. We are now seeing clear evidence of those poor performers experiencing dwindling enrollment numbers and many are closing their doors.

ECPI University has a graduation rate of nearly 50 percent. Let's put that in context. The top schools in America enjoy a high graduation rate because they take only the best students. What happens to everyone else who wants a second chance? Many go to community college where the national average graduation rate is only 24 percent - that's a DOE number that factors out people who are only there to take a class or two. Put in context, our graduation rate is very good, which is my way of saying, it is not relevant to include our for-profit status as a way of casting ECPI the same bucket as other schools that are not performing up to our standards.

Also, I did take out the Senate report, because it has been totally discredited as far as our performance goes. ECPI University is a VSCOC (VetSuccess on Campus) school, which means we are among the few colleges and universities that the Department of Veteran Affairs thinks highly enough of to place a VA counselor on campus to help students better take advantage of their benefits. The Military Times consistently ranks us Best for Vets. On two occasions, we were even rated number one in the nation for online and nontraditional schools.

Finally, there is no reason to eliminate campus locations, which I added. That is just basic information.

By the way, in the interest of full disclosure, I am the director of communications for ECPI University. I know other large institutions and companies make changes to their pages without being challenged like this. Our changes are not an effort to turn this page into a billboard. I hope you will reflect on this an consider that some of your editors may be exercising a bias and allow these rather benign changes of ours to be enacted.

Thank you, David Brandt

Whether or not for-profit schools are good or bad is beside the point of whether or not that fact is encyclopedic; it is the trivial minutia that makes it so. Think of the reason you look something up in an encyclopedia, and you'll realize that it is to find out those little details about a thing. It is not me who is making the value judgment. At the same time, going to such lengths to obscure this fact about your school gives the impression -- falsely, as you claim -- that it is something to hide, or to be embarrassed by. I don't think this is necessarily the case since, as you note, some for-profit schools or institutes have done much good for many students. You can let the facts of your particular institution speak for themselves.

If you want to challenge the editors (not my editors), you should do so on the article's talk page. They're willing to engage you in this discussion. Llamabr (talk) 22:00, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Potential Conflict of Interest -- ECPI University

Hello, 199.36.12.19. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the article ECPI University, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. Editing for the purpose of advertising or promotion is not permitted. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

• avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
• propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the {{request edit}} template);
• disclose your COI when discussing affected articles (see WP:DISCLOSE);
• avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
• do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID). At this point, I have reverted your recent edit, so not to worry. But it would be more appropriate to let an independent Wikipedia editor determine the neutrality of the article text. You can request this review through the article's talk page. UnkleFester (talk) 05:49, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

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