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I don't know if you'll see this, as your IP is dynamic, it appears, but the rolling block evidence from books is here. Dicklyon (talk) 21:51, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

@Dicklyon: I'm not even sure what that means. I've been dealing with these guns for over a decade and I've always seen it as Rolling Block. That's the historical and academic term regardless of what google chart may say. Here are a few examples.

[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13]

OK, let's look at those:

1. [14] – A forum (not a WP:RS). Yes, has "Remington Rolling Block Rifle" and "Remington Rolling Block rifle" and "Remington Rolling Block military rifle" and "Klamath Indian Reservation Rolling Block" in sentences.
2. [15] – Magazine article, yes, with "Remington Model No. 5/1902 Rolling Block rifles" and "Remington Rolling Blocks" and "ammo for the Rolling Block" in sentences.
3. [16] – Editorial with "the Remington rolling block was just as popular" and "The 'rolling block' nomenclature was never officially used but became a popular nickname" and "U.S. Army shunned the Remington rolling block". Not proper name.
4. [17] – NRA article with "Remington Model 1871 Rolling Block pistols". Capped in the context of a specific model designation. Probably there's more to this article that I can't see, as a non-member. this other article there has an example of "rolling block" used generically and also "Remington Rolling Block rifle". So, mixed.
5. [18] – I can't see the article. "the Remington Rolling Block Action Rifle" in the one-sentence teaser (copied from the title-case title?). Clearly over-capitalized.
6. [19] – I can't see the article. "Remington's Rolling Block" in the one-sentence teaser.
7. [20] – No sentences available to check, but lowercase "rolling block" in the table.
8. [21] – NRA Museum. "Remington's No. 1 Rolling Block action rifles were available in many calibers. The rolling block action consisted..." and "Remington Single Action Army revolvers, rolling block rifles and pistols...". So maybe the first is a specific model name, but clearly they support lowercase generic.
9. [22] – NY History site, gallery label. "Remington rolling blocks were among the breech-loading rifles and carbines that..." Lowercase only.
10. [23] – Grand Rapids Museum. No use in sentences, so no evidence either way.
11. [24] – Royal Museum Greenwich. "Remington rolling block pistol. The pistol is half-stocked with a flared butt (no cap) secured by steel strips back and front. The lock is a Remington rolling block in two parts." Just lowercase.
12. [25] – Maine memory network. No sentences, but description "Remington rolling block rifle, 1864" and keyword "rolling block". Just lowercase.
13. [26] – Museum of Technology. "The Remington Rolling Block rifle produced... The rolling block is one of the strongest actions... Rolling block rifles were made for smokeless powder cartridges. A rolling block is a form of firearm action..." Capped only in the context of "Remington Rolling Block", lowercase otherwise.

The point is, per WP:NCCAPS we use sentence case for article titles; so don't be distracted by title case in titles in sources; it's not relevant. Dicklyon (talk) 21:54, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

I've started a discussion at Talk:Rolling block#Case and hyphen and copied this list to there. Please join. Dicklyon (talk) 21:59, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

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