User talk:10002dweller
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[edit]Hello, 10002dweller, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of your recent edits did not conform to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and may have been removed. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations verified in reliable, reputable print or online sources or in other reliable media. Always provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed. Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles.
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November 2021
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Hello, I'm Discospinster. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! ... discospinster talk 22:18, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Jean Smart. Thank you. ... discospinster talk 22:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. ... discospinster talk 22:32, 25 November 2021 (UTC)- Please make sure that you have thoroughly read MOS:GENDERID, as Wikipedia has some very particular policies that apply to trans people. In particular, make sure you have read MOS:DEADNAME: when a person was not notable under their pre-transition name, it should not be mentioned in an article. —C.Fred (talk) 13:20, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.
You have shown interest in gender-related disputes or controversies or in people associated with them. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.
For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.
Please stop your disruptive editing.
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Jean Smart, you may be blocked from editing. Please ask any questions you have about MOS:DEADNAME before you make any further edits. If you were to make an edit like this one again—regardless of the sources you cite—I would block you for the egregious privacy violation. —C.Fred (talk) 15:33, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
She was adopted as [deadname redacted] and goes by Forrest now. It is a factual point of clarification, I do not see how this is inappropriate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 10002dweller (talk • contribs)
- Thank you for demonstrating that you either do not understand or are unwilling to comply with our policies related to gender identity. I agree with Ponyo's action below. —C.Fred (talk) 02:18, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 01:15, 28 November 2021 (UTC)Your rules: A living transgender or non-binary person's former name should be included in the lead sentence of their main biographical article only if they were notable under it; introduce the name with "born" or "formerly":
From Chelsea Manning, notable under prior name: Chelsea Elizabeth Manning (born Bradley Edward Manning, December 17, 1987) ... From Elliot Page, notable under prior name: Elliot Page (formerly Ellen Page; born February 21, 1987) ...
I simply added that he was formerly X. You simply can’t let others edit.
- And why do you think they were notable as X? What did they do to be a notable person under the name X? —C.Fred (talk) 18:27, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
The story of her adoption from China was covered widely in press due to her mom being a celebrity. Does that not meet your standard for for being notable?
- Being adopted does not make one notable. He is not notable just because his mom is a celebrity. —C.Fred (talk) 22:46, 28 November 2021 (UTC)