User talk:-ACL-

March 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from 28th Alberta general election. When removing content, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the content has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. 117Avenue (talk) 21:53, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, thanks for the welcome, but there was no mistake behind my edit. I intentionally removed the "seats needed" from the infobox on 28th Alberta general election, in accordance to the discussion that occurred on Talk:Canadian_federal_election,_2011. I had already did this once today and provided full explanation behind my doing so. The reversion back to the former was subsequently done without reasoning either. If we need to reopen discussion on every single upcoming election page, I suppose we could do so. But in the end, I simply do not agree that "seats needed" is a necessary addition to Canadian electoral pages. Not only is it nonsensical to suggest that the PC's need -23 seats to win a majority but it is also, in a way, incorrect to suggest that the Liberals need 36 seats to win the election. That is not the way our parliamentary system works, any party with a plurality of seats (whether it hits the majority mark or not) can form a government, just as a coalition of parties (all obviously without the required "seats needed") could form a government. "Seats needed" is simply an unnecessary line on this infobox that can be taken away. Readers can do the math to figure out what a particular party would require in order to achieve a majority. -ACL- (talk) 22:05, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think that when people see "seats needed", that it isn't seats needed for a majority? Because that's what I think. 117Avenue (talk) 22:09, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is a point that was raised in the discussion on Talk:Canadian_federal_election,_2011. Because I'm aware of Canadian politics and elections, I understand what you're referring to but to an outside reader it may not be exactly clear. I think noting that these are the "seats needed for a majority" it may be a little more valuable to have in the infobox. However, then I think it may start to become cluttered. Since the amount of seats each party had at dissolution is provided anyways, if it was noted, for example, on the Alberta election page under "87 seats in the Legislative Assembly of Alberta" that "44 seats are needed for a majority," I personally think it would be sufficient. On the whole, though, if we're not going to have "seats needed" on the federal election page, I don't really see why we should have it on all provincial pages either. -ACL- (talk) 22:17, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ya, I can see it your way. 117Avenue (talk) 01:23, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for being so cordial about it! -ACL- (talk) 01:51, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Some else has actually started a discussion for a parameter at Template talk:Infobox election#For those bad in math: Seats needed to win after the election. 117Avenue (talk) 19:29, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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