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Introduction to contentious topics

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M.Bitton (talk) 12:21, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't edit such an article, i edited a TALK PAGE. What you have written don't apply to talk pages. לידך, בלעדייך (talk) 07:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi לידך, בלעדייך! I noticed your contributions and wanted to welcome you to the Wikipedia community.

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Regarding this, as an editor without the extended confirmed privilege, you are not entitled to engage in consensus forming discussions. You can make an edit request. You have done that. Your request appears to have been declined, so there is nothing more for you to do there. Sean.hoyland (talk) 03:57, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sean.hoyland How much time does it take to determine whether my request was declined or not? How much time does it take for a discussion? Isn't it about a week? Surely more than a few minutes with one editor! I have interest in the article, but to "do" it depends if the discussion about my request continues or not. לידך, בלעדייך (talk) 05:04, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's no discussion phase or designated time window. That kind of collaborative process is not available to non-extended confirmed user in the WP:PIA topic area. There is an edit request from a non-EC user and a response from an EC user. The response may be a request for clarification, and you can certainly provide that. There's no dependency on your interests. Your interest will presumably still be there when you are extended confirmed when you can edit the article yourself and participate in the consensus forming process. For non-EC editors, the options are limited to straightforward edit requests. Anything that is fuzzy/debatable/controversial/gray rather than black and white is unlikely to succeed. Edit requests that follow the WP:EDITXY guidelines are much more likely to succeed. Sean.hoyland (talk) 08:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]