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Reviewer: Whiteguru (talk · contribs) 09:25, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Starts2nd Opinion.

 

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Observations

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GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  1. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  • Infobox is has a number of useful elements. Inclusion of reading level is a plus. I am nonplussed with the link to UBS. May we have an explanation?
  • Lede is strong and robust and captures the essence of Crossways in producing this version.
  • Right after <ref>15</ref> there is the mention of Grudem. This is a bit abrupt as a reader does not know who Grudem is?
  1. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  • Does there need to be a section on Translation Oversight Committee ?? Consider
  1. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  • Strauss certainly hit the translation crew with a trout. Mounce's reply is excellent and is a very good/totally relevant citation include (as it explains translation philosophies).
  • Mounce describes various points regarding his view of the need for both formal and functional translations. is a concise summary.
  • Post-publication → would 'Reception' be a better heading?
  • 'the best of the best' of the KJV tradition." [citation needed]
  • Inclusion of Reference 30 is excellent.
  1. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  • Interesting list of editors there, a couple of clerks in there as well!!! VistaSunset, you have certainly done the hard yards.
  • 326 editors, 99 page watchers, top editor is VistaSunset with 281 edits. Average of 312 page views per day.
  1. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  • The photo is described as a geometric shape, this is not true.It's a photo of a book. I need to look at the policy on taking photos of books and using them in articles. I have run into an issue with this before as a GA Reviewer; If I recall aright, the photographer has to declare the purpose of the photograph, and then release it with a CC-by-SA creative commons licence.
  • OK, I found what I was looking for. See below.
  • Would it not be better to grab an image from Crossway and use the standard non-free declaration?
  • {{Non-free book cover|image has rationale=yes|category=Religious book cover images}}
  • And list the image in [[Category:Religious book cover images]]

  1. Overall:
  • This article is well scribed, and as discretion is the better part of valour, leaving the bulk of debate on gender-neutral language to the earlier confabulation by the Greek translators is a good decision.
  • I have raised some issues above, open to discussion there.
  • When we resolve these minor issues, this will be a Good Article. --Whiteguru (talk) 07:52, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

 

 On hold