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Earwig's Copyvio Detector

Copyvio in other languages

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Translated copyvio is still copyvio. My opinion: this isn't close enough to justify nomination for speedy deletion as G12; it's complicated, so your best bet is to blank it and list it at WP:CP (add {{subst:copyvio|url=source(s)}} at the head of the page, save, then follow the two easy steps on the resulting template). Ping me if you need help with that. User:Justlettersandnumbers 23:38, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Piping

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[[Frog (amphibian)|]] → Frog

Indentation

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Bullet in a table Header text
  • Defining the ul style margin seems to fit what you're seeking!
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Nocat

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Some user boxes accept |nocat=true, for example {{User Shark|nocat=true}} to avoid Category:Wikipedians interested in sharks. If you post links to user boxes which add an unwanted category and does not currently accept nocat then somebody can probably adapt the userbox to accept it. Often it only requires the line | nocat = {{{nocat|}}}

Translations

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For translating articles from other Wikipedias, this is an answer I gave at the Teahouse on a similar question some time ago:
  • WPs in different languages have very different rules and standards. Articles and facts that are good to publish on one WP are not automatically OK for other WPs. That said, the English WP have one of the highest standards for articles among the WPs, so most articles that you find here could be considered on other WPs.
  • If you translate texts from one WP you must also "bring along" the references for that text. If the text in the original language is unreferenced, you must find references yourself to support the text you have translated. Some WPs allow references in a foreign language, other prefer not to have them. You must ask this at the WP in the language you are planning to translate articles to. Most WPs have something similar to the Teahouse where you can ask. (Some of the are called "Cafés") A translators role on the WP is very different from translators in other places. When you translate a piece of text to a WP, you become responsible for that text in the same way as if you have written it yourself, you can't blame the first editor who wrote it if anything is wrong in it.
  • You must put a template on the articles talk page about the translation. These templates should contain information about what article version the text is collected from and which version on the other WP that it is inserted to. See Template:Translated page, and here it is used on one talk page translated to the English WP. It is the small box with two flags. This is so that the editors that originally wrote the text get credited. There are similar templates/boxes on the WPs in other languages.

Multipule Pictures

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For more on this, see: Nymphaea alba

Two example pictures.
Colored dice with white background
Here's the first image...
Colored dice with checkered background
...and the second!

{{multiple image
| align = right
| direction = vertical
| header = Two example pictures.
| width = 100
| image1 = PNG transparency demonstration 1.png
| alt1 = Colored dice with white background
| caption1 = Here's the first image...
| image2 = PNG transparency demonstration 2.png
| alt2 = Colored dice with checkered background
| caption2 = ...and the second!
}}

Columns in tight spaces

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"I've used a different piece of code for the columns so the problem seems to be fixed."

{{col-float}} {{col-float-break}} {{col-float-end}}

<br> vs <br /> vs <br/>

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There is one difference - I have enabled a gadget called "Syntax highlighter" in my preferences. It colours tags in pink, templates in yellow, comments in green, links in blue, etc., and I find it makes finding these things embedded in the text much easier. However, a <br> is interpreted as an open tag, and leaves everything coloured pink for the rest of the article. This is annoying, so when I am editing an article I usually remove any unnecessary ones and change the ones in the infoboxes to <br />. —Anne Delong (talk) 22:33, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Link to other language wiki page

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to link to another language Wikipedia's article just type inside of doubled brackets a colon, followed by a language code (in this case "es" for Spanish) and another colon followed by the name of the article at that Wikipedia. So for example, if you wanted to link to the Spanish Wikipedia article on the slow loris, you'd type es:Nycticebus, which would format as es:Nycticebus. If you wanted to link there but have it display without the langugae code, you'd use a pipe between the link name and the display name: Nycticebus, which would display as Nycticebus.


About sources

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Hi W.carter. To boil the rules on sourcing down to their bare bones: yes, you can use an autobiography as a source about its author, but:
  • the information must be uncontroversial (children's birthdates are fine, unsubstatiated claims of acheiving cold fusion in the garage are not), and
  • most of the article must still be sourced to third-party sources.
The full relevant guideline is at WP:SELFSOURCE. Hope that helps, Yunshui 12:27, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Emellanåt ;) See the parameters for {{Translated page}} and add the diffs for the version/insertversion parameters. As for positioning, it's fine where it is. Cheers, User:Philg88 15:40, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Below the article.

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I have noticed that the things at the bottom of an article i.e. sources marked with <ref></ref> can be called many things: References, Notes, Citations etc. Are there some specific guidelines when to use what or is the "naming" decided on a case to case basis? - W.carter (talk) 11:02, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Oh, and one more: In El Grecco there is this really nifty timeline in a collapsible box close to the end of the article. In the "edit text" (what is that called?) I can only see {{Timeline of El Grecco}}. Is this timeline a template, and in that case, how do I get hold of it and use for other articles about artists? - W.carter (talk) 11:31, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello, W.carter! The title "References" for that section is most common, for a couple of reasons: "Notes" usually means footnotes, where the author inserts explanations and personal opinions in small type below the text. Since opinions of the article writer aren't appropriate in an encyclopedia article, you don't see a lot of these; some editors are just used to using the title "Notes" in journal articles or essays and keep using it here. "Citations" is also often not appropriate, because that section could also include some general references as well as citations; the more general term "references covers both of these. —User:Anne Delong 11:38, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
The collapsible box is called a "Navbox" (Navigational box). It's a kind of template. There are currently 68 of these for painters. The list is HERE. —User:Anne Delong 11:50, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
W.carter was apparently not referring to the navbox Template:El Greco but to a timeline. I don't see {{Timeline of El Grecco}} in the page source and there is no template by that name but I see {{Timeline of El Greco's life}}. That code transcludes Template:Timeline of El Greco's life. When you click the "Edit" tab on a page there is "Pages transcluded onto the current version of this page" at the bottom of the window. You can use this feature to click links to the used templates. User:PrimeHunter 12:11, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

How do I reference a data base?

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In Sweden more and more data base material is becoming available online. Most of the material is just books or paper document that have been scanned or digitalized, so the actual book does exist. Example: Dictionary of Swedish National Biography. It is great for research but it poses a problem: When using these as references should I use {{cite web}} or {{cite book}}? At most of these data bases there are two sets of facts to use when referring to the article in question, the “paper one” is suggested if you want a very correct ref that does not change if the website changes, but if you want others to have easy access to the same information the “web one” is recommended. Example: Article about John Bauer (at the bottom of the page). Or is there by now a {{cite data base}}? - W.carter (talk) 21:53, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello, W.carter, welcome back to the Teahouse. All of the citation templates have a "url" parameter, so you can use {{cite book}}, even if it is online. You should provide the other information for the book, not the database, so that others could find a paper copy if they wanted. (By the way, it's better to use {{cite encyclopedia}} for dictionaries.) User:Anon126 22:01, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi! There are a wealth of source specific templates see Category:Specific-source_templates. If a source is going to be used a lot, and has special characteristics, these can be real timesavers.
As to refs that do not change, the "accessdate" parameter is some help there, in conjunction with archiving sites.
All the best: User:Rich Farmbrough 11 May 2014 (UTC).

Dashes & Templates

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There is no key on most keyboards for the en dash (–) or em dash(—). You can insert them from the Insert menu just below the main editing window, by using their HTML codes, &ndash; and &mdash;, or by various wiki templates. For use, see MOS:DASH.
When you create a new article, you are free to decide whether to use mdy dates or dmy dates, but if you are writing an article about someone from a country where one or the other strongly predominates, you should use that one. For more info, see MOS:DATEFORMAT.
Templates are categorized at [[Category:Wikipedia templates]], except for Wikipedia:List of infoboxes. Templates are also organized at Wikipedia:Template messages. My advice is not to spend time at the beginning of your Wikipedia career studying lists of templates. Ss you use and edit wikipedia, see what templates do things that would be useful, and keep a notebook of ones you want to remember. Some templates are almost indispensable; Here is a short list of "essential" templates I use a lot:
Many of these have synonyms. — User:Anomalocaris 21:22, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Making translations more like native English

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Hi, I noticed on your userpage you mentioned that you wished it to be more common for translations from Swedish to be improved by native English speakers.

Possibly WP:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests might be useful for this. --User:Demiurge1000 20:45, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

...and if the gods are smiling upon you, it will succeed.

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You are making good progress. There are several things that need fixing. I believe you are referencing a book using {{cite web}}. Your first reference is
<ref>{{cite web |url=http://libris.kb.se/bib/1833312 |last=Jolin |first=Einar |title=Einar Jolin. |series=Liljevalchs katalog, 0349-1137 ; 224 |year=1957 |location=Stockholm }} p4.</ref>
If the information is actually on this web page, the reference is OK. But if the information is actually on page 4 of a book that this web page is describing, you should be using {{cite book}} instead, with the |title= parameter set to the book title and the |page= parameter set to the page number (or |pages= for multiple pages).
I compliment you for not falling into the academic standard but non-Wikipedia approach of indicating the re-use of the same or similar references with ibid., idem. and op. cit. However, repeating identical references is also not Wikipedia way. If you need to use the above reference more than once, rather than repeating it, name it once, something like this:
<ref name="Liljevalchs p. 4">{{cite web |url=http://libris.kb.se/bib/1833312 |last=Jolin |first=Einar |title=Einar Jolin. |series=Liljevalchs katalog, 0349-1137 ; 224 |year=1957 |location=Stockholm }} p4.</ref>
and then reuse it simply
<ref name="Liljevalchs p. 4"/>
The closing slash character closes out the <ref> tag without the need for the corresponding </ref>. You don't need to use quotes around the ref name if the ref name has no embedded spaces.
So, you can improve the references by combining identical references, but then you will still have many similar references that differ only by page number. There are a number of approved Wikipedia solutions to this, and probably the most popular is the approach used in Harriet Arbuthnot, where the footnotes appear in a Notes section with each book named as briefly as possible, usually just by the author's last name, and a page number, and then below that in the References section, each book is fully described.
This is all explained in Help:Referencing for beginners, especially the under the heading "Alternative system". —User:Anomalocaris 07:20, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi there, I saw the message above after I had finished the latest round of editing. The referencing isn't finished but what I've done should give you the examples you need to complete it. Some of this advice duplicates what Anomalocaris points out above, other than I haven't used the notes paradigm. Nevertheless, the reference section is a lot more concise now.
  • I have used the {{sfn}} template for the book references and <ref name = "XXXX" /> where there are multiple citations.
  • Please note when using {{cite book}} "editor" is not the same as "author" (which you mixed up with the reference to Kungliga och Norra begravningsplatserna (vandringar bland berömda personers gravar).
  • accessdate is not used with books - only web sites.
  • Don't use "date=" when citing books, use "year="
I've also done a bit more copyediting, and my personal view is that you should dump the red links and the {{ill}}s as they detract from readability.
Some pictures would be nice, there are many on the web but none at Wiki Commons so copyright would be an issue. Not my area of expertise. I could scan one of the books, it´s from 1957 so more than 50 years old, but I don´t know if that counts. I should probably ask at the Teahouse. - W.carter (talk) 10:15, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

No tights or cape, just a magic WikiwandTM :) As long as Jolin's pictures are not uploaded to Commons they can be claimed under English Wikipedia's "Fair Use" criteria. See this Picasso painting as an example. If you find know of suitable images online, please post the appropriate links on my talk page —I know I could do the search myself, but you created the article so it's your call. Once I have image targets I will sort out the required graphic and licensing issues and upload them. User:Philg88 5 May 2014 (UTC)

regarding Liljevalchs katalog, maybe I am missing something, but I still think you want {{cite book}} and I still think you want to move this to the Bibliography and reference the various pages (4, 5, 7, etc.) using shortened footnotes. By the way, it's fine to use the (´) character on this page, but in articles, use the plain typewriter apostrophe ('). —User:Anomalocaris 10:42, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
I agree, the edits I did were as examples of how to use sfn and named references and are not the finalised draft. User:Philg88 10:56, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Initial edits

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Hi there, I've made a few initial changes to the article, and some further comments below.

  • The Wikipedia style guide prefers locations of birth and death to be handled in the article body, not the first sentence of the lead, i.e like this (dd mm yy - dd mm yy), you have also missed out the date of death. Move the place of birth to the "Early life and education section" and the date of death to the "Family and death section" and work them both into the prose.
  • There seems to be some other text at the end of the article under the heading "Passive Business Plans". You should move this somewhere else to avoid confusion, particularly for when the draft moves into the main article space.
  • Keep an eye on your style. This is an encyclopedia article, not an essay and should not reflect your personal views. For example "Although it can sometimes be sensed that this entire ruckus was too much for the refined and elegant Jolin." is not a statement of fact but of opinion, which is why I've removed it.
  • Never use words like "famous", this is what's called a "peacock" term, instead use "notable", "best known" etc. Terms like "breathtaking" should also be avoided.
  • Words like "atelier" are not familiar to the majority of English readers, in this case I have used "apartment" instead.
  • When you assert something to be a fact, you need to provide a citation from a reliable source. For example: "Matisse studies created by the group in the 1910s are considered among the best paintings produced in Sweden during the 20th century." requires attribution to one or more notable source who recorded that opinion in writing.

I'll leave you to do some polishing based on my copyediitng and the points above. Please leave me a message on my talk page when you would like me to take another look. Best, User:Philg88 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Your contributions are appreciated and welcomed

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I hope you don't mind that I edited your sandbox article, just this once. By the way, if you think there might be an English Wikipedia article Konstnärsförbundets skola some day, you can use ill template, {{ill}}, like this: {{ill|Konstnärsförbundets skola|sv}}, which results in: Konstnärsförbundets skola. The sv link will automatically stop displaying when the English article is created. —User:Anomalocaris 20:38, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

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