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NEW Notes for Acad Ronin
The Attacke (1812) in Danish Hands
[edit]Danish Commander of the gun boat flotilla was Jørgen Conrad de Falsen based on Samsøe. This was the same flotilla that had attacked a convoy southeast of Hjelm on 4 - 5th July 1811.[1]
Officers involved in the capture of HMS Attack (Danish spelling Attacke) on 18 -19 August 1812 included Emanuel Blom,[2] Jørgen Falsen (commanding),[3] Georg Fog,[4] Knud Linde,[5] and Broder Knud Brodersen Wigelsen.[6][7][8]
By the way: Senior Lieutenant Wigelsen may be worth an article to himself. He participated in the capture of Seagull in 1808, second-in-command of HDMS Lougen from 1807 to 1810 in Norwegian waters, and in 1810 commanded three Norwegian Gunships on their expedition to the far north of Norway (see Müller's expedition in 1810). In command of a division of gunboats in the Kattegat, on 29 June 1811, he captured the British brig HMS Safeguard. (no wiki article, but see List of ships captured in the 19th century ) From 31 December 1811 he was sent to report on the salvage operations on
the British ships St George and Defence. He took command, temporarily in Falsen's absence on sick leave (his wounds from the attack on the Hjelm convoy of July 1811 were again troublesome), of the Samsøe gunboat flotilla from February 1812 to April 1812 before being sent to Grenaa in command of his own eight large gunboats (kanonschallup).
Question: did some of the gunboats attacking HMS Attack come from Grenaa?
The Attacke (1812) is listed in the danish skibregister but without further details. it is not listed on the Royal Danish Naval Museum database of captured British ships
The brig is listed on Balsvad's website - Ships - A but only that it was formerly HMS Attack
Nothing found in Topsøe-Jensen search for Wrangler or Hamadryad
Nothing found on Danish wikipedia
Foreness point translates as Fornæs Lighthouse in Denmark is located on the eastern tip of the Danish peninsula, Djursland by the sea, Kattegat between Denmark and Sweden, 6 kilometers north of the town Grenaa. The lighthouse was built in 1839. (thus Danes and Brits agree where the battle was!) see Fornæs Lighthouse
- Citation
- (in Danish)T. A. Topsøe-Jensen og Emil Marquard (1935) “Officerer i den dansk-norske Søetat 1660-1814 og den danske Søetat 1814-1932“. Two volumes. Download here.
- Balsved - Danish Naval History
- end of notes on HMS Attack
- ^ The Royal Danish Naval Museum website lists over 2400 ships with access to their design plans and models where such exist. The list of Danish ships starts with one dated 1640 and reaches 1938. Using Danish language settings, it is possible to search for/filter specific types of ship, the designers by name, and specific dates. Also from this museum is the skibregister, comprised of record cards for individual ships (where they have been saved)
- ^ Each complete ship's wiki-article is probably listed in the Category:Ships of the Royal Dano-Norwegian Navy
Question
[edit]Thanks for this. At least it adds a useful name. However, the link you gave for the skibsregister leads to the Orlogsmuseet site and the same start page as http://www.orlogsbasen.dk database. Am I missing something?
Answer - The link should be Skibregister here.
At some point I should do WP articles on Tiger and Safeguard. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 19:28, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Glommen
[edit]The Danish brig Glommen was launched in 1791[9] She shares with HDMS Triton the honour of being twice captured by the British
Glommen's career
[edit]- 1793
Under Peter Jacobsen Schult, Glommen escorted an outgoing convoy as far as Cape Finisterre, returning to Denmark escorting Danish East Indiamen[10]
- 1796
Watch ship at Copenhagen naval base[11]
- 1797
Under commander Peter Caspar Wessel Brown, Glommen served in the home squadron and on the Norwegian coast. [12]
- 1798
Hans Munck was a junior lieutenant on board.[13] (insignificant without further input - Viking1808)
- 1801
Georg Albrecht Koefoed was in command of a squadron, which included Glommen, in the Mediterranean completing peace negotiations with Tripoli, and the exchange of prisoners. These complete, he ordered four of his ships home (Najaden, Sejeren, Freia and Havfruen) from Malaga but Triton and Glommen were held under embargo at Port Mahon by the British from 1 April even though they were flying the Danish flag and pennant. The embargo was lifted on 11 July 1801, after which the two ships plus Koefoed's Thetis proceeded to Tripoli.[14]
- 1807
Both Glommen and Triton, having been embargoed in the Mediterranean in 1801, were lost to British at the Battle of Copenhagen
- Of passing interest
The Glommen (Norway) Salmon Fishery Company Limited. - wound up in 1882[15]
Other stuff
[edit]- Sejeren needs investigating
1801 Ordered home (with Najaden, Freia and Havfruen) after a spell in the Mediterranean concerning Tripoli negotiations[16]
- Freia ditto
- HDMS Havfruen (1790) ditto
- Danish privateers
Within one week of the British forces departing with the remains of the Danish fleet, King Christian VII's government in Copenhagen promulgated the Danish Privateers Regulations (1807). Denmark was at war with Britain, and a part of the fight would be taken up by privateers.[17] Kaperbrev (letters of marque) were issued in Denmark and Norway[18] from 1807 to 1813 - copies of original letters of marque for the two ships Odin and Norges Statholder are included in this reference. Danish shipping companies donated suitable ships (brigs, schooners and galleasses) to the state which could then equip the ships for their new privateering role. One such ship was the brig Admiral Juel[19] which ranged the North Sea before capture by the British off Scarborough.[20]
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[22].
[23]
Blumensaadt & Ingemand - Vores Slægt (lineage website) - Sidsel Marie Hassel
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[21]
- ^ Topsøe-Jensen Vol 1 page 153
- ^ Topsøe-Jensen Vol 1 page 153 -Blom
- ^ Topsøe-Jensen Vol 1 page 353 - Falsen
- ^ Topsøe-Jensen Vol 1 page 384 -Fog
- ^ Topsøe-Jensen Vol 2 page 100 - Linde
- ^ Topsøe-Jensen Vol 2 page 700 - Wigelsen
- ^ Projekt Runeberg - DBL - Wigelsen
- ^ Finholbek website
- ^ Royal Danish Naval Museum - Glommen
- ^ Topsøe-Jensen Vol 2 p 471
- ^ Topsøe-Jensen Vol 2 p 413
- ^ Topsøe-Jensen Vol 1 p 202
- ^ Topsøe-Jensen Vol 2 p 215
- ^ Topsøe-Jensen Vol 2 p 14
- ^ London Gazette Issue 25136 page 3706 dated 8 August 1882
- ^ Topsøe-Jensen Vol 2 p 14
- ^ Historiens Verden
- ^ Norwegian History website
- ^ Marcussen
- ^ "No. 16124". The London Gazette. 1 March 1808. p. 321.
- ^ a b Danish Biographical Lexicon
- ^ a b Topsøe-Jensen vol. 1, pages 367 - 368
- ^ Project Runeberg