User:Stepheng3/Archive5

National Register of Historic Places listings in Sonoma County, California

Thanks for sharing with me the guideline on geographic coordinate precision. I wasn't aware of it. One of my hobbies is to go around a take photos of places listed on the National Register and I build my itineraries from our tables out here. It's helpful for the coordinates to be as precise as possible, but getting it down to that fine of precision is unnecessary. I'll change my habits. --sanfranman59 (talk) 17:17, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Your photo of Bolinas Lagoon included in the article L. Martin Griffin, Jr.

Hello Stepheng3! I have taken the liberty of using your photo of Bolinas Lagoon in the L. Martin Griffin article which I have expanded. I also have used the picture to go with my nomination of the article at WP:DYK. Thanks for taking the photo, and I hope you approve of the context in which I have placed it. Best wishes, Jusdafax 06:09, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad that the photos are getting used. I've made some minor changes to the article. Keep up the good work. --Stepheng3 (talk) 19:22, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks, and thanks for the changes! As you see I added your second picture to the article, and swapped it for the one I had at DYK to be a better fit for the hook. I also removed wiki-link brackets from the Marin Municipal Water District, as there appears to be no article for that at this time. Your pictures are excellent, and fit the article perfectly. All in all, and with your help, the article went from a very short stub yesterday to one that is probably better than 'start' class now. I await the DYK judgement; here's hoping! Jusdafax 19:54, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree it's at least Start-class. There will soon be an article about the MMWD, at which time the wiki-link should be re-added. I'll stay tuned and wish you luck with your DYK. --Stepheng3 (talk) 19:56, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks yet again! I look forward to an MMWD article, since, as you no doubt know, there are some controversial - and notable - issues going on there. Standing by. Jusdafax 20:10, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Stub created. Please contribute as you see fit. --Stepheng3 (talk) 20:22, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Granite Wash Mountains-50 state Geobox error use with ".svg" map

First look at Talk:Flaming Gorge Dam (the map is uncorrected). At Talk:Four Corners Monument, the Arizona .svg map was in a Geobox uncorrected. Now, User:Ruhrfisch fixed the Geobox by making the Template:Geobox locator Arizona svg. I think I messed up now, by not using the Geobox he had fixed on the page; I used the other one, and tried to put it into the Geobox, and got an error with the Pushpin dot.... But... the point is, any use of the regular .svg maps in a Geobox for the 50 states, makes large errors on state perimeters. (It is not noticeable at very center of any 50 state .svg map. I first discovered the problem trying to use the map for a creek next to San Pedro River (Arizona), the Aravaipa Creek... all sorts of choices of coordinated from peaks, towns, etc were all 40 miles off.... I'll see if I just picked the wrong Geobox Fix at Talk: four corners.. (I'm doing experimenting... I think I'll have to see if somebody, user:Ruhrfisch can fix the geobox... I see that one of his geobox Fix's is inside of a Wikitable... (trying to FIX the use of Geobox use with Arizona, and NEVADA, next if possible)..(Inserting in the existing Geobox, gave a Pushpin outsied the Map with an "Expression error: "["...etc...----) (Thanx for bearing with me, on this, I'd like to see the Goebox corrected so any state can use either the .PNG, map, or the .svg Map..)....--- ...Mmcannis (talk) 04:21, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I think the error should be corrected at Template:Geobox locator Utah and/or File:Utah Locator Map.svg (and so on for the other 49 states) rather than by abandoning the use of Template:Geobox maps in thousands of articles. You might have gotten a quicker response if you'd brought the issue up on Template talk:Geobox instead of an inactive talkpage like Talk:Flaming Gorge Dam. --Stepheng3 (talk) 04:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanx for having patience with the patient. User:Ruhrfisch never messaged me, so I didn't know there was a fix,.....(but saw your change to Granite Wash Mountains and I didn't know how to use it(the changes)(so your changes were the first Test)... (I just (Now) figured it out.. Instead of 'Arizona' in the Geobox, the change is to "| map_locator = "Arizona svg" "..(and use of the "USA Arizona location map.svg"...) It took me hours to interpret how the change he made....pause.... was to be used.. (I believed he had fixed it, but because I didn't use it correctly in the Geobox, I initially thought it didn't work in the Geobox.. he had the geoboxes, nested inside of an Infobox... on the Talk:Four Corners Monument page).. Anyhow, now I can go on from here... but I have been making articles in Nevada, and southern California.. so other items need to be fixed. (And New Mexico is to follow). Thanx for helping ME. (from the HOT sonoranDesert- -ColoradoDesert, ArizonaUSA)... Mmcannis (talk) 06:50, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm still confused by all of this, but since you sound confident that you have found a workable solution, I'll leave you to implement it. Best regards, --Stepheng3 (talk) 15:06, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar for saving Cedar Lake (California)

		The Article Rescue Barnstar
		Given this 28th day of July in the year of 2010 to Stepheng3 for saving Cedar Lake (California). Congratulations, the nominator has asked to withdrew its AfD. --moreno oso (talk) 20:34, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. California landforms happen to be one of my areas of special interest, so this AfD offered a challenge that was right up my alley. --Stepheng3 (talk) 22:10, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

5x expansion of Cedar Lake (California)

Don't know if you're following the thread you started on my talkpage but an admin pointed out that you're well on the way to 5x expanding this article. Here is the gist from my talkpage:

Okay Bubba, rub it in (you're right as usual). In fact, there are at least two other Cedar Lakes I know in California. The 5x would require about 4700b or about double its present size (it was about 923b when it was nominated for the AfD). The expansion began yesterday on the 27th which means Stepheng3 or any other editor that wishes to assist him has four more days to 5x it.

I know either BubbaHotep or I would gladly nominate the article for you should you decide to expand it further. 4700b translates roughly to 610 words with citations non-inclusive. DYK or Did You Know items appear on the frontpage and are distinctive editting marks/awards for editors. You can look at my userpage to see that I've done a few and later on down the page, you can see my 25th nom that appeared with its picture. I encourage to think this over but you have four days to get it done. Good luck. ----moreno oso (talk) 21:11, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Coord parameters in gold mine articles

Thanks for the advice, I will fix up my old gold mining articles as I go through and update them. I noticed you fixed up a few of the African articles already. I was wondering how the template worked, even contemplated asking you but you got there ahead of me. Thank you, Calistemon (talk) 01:20, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Cedar Lake (California)

I want to thank you very much. Stepheng3. What a wonderful job. I feel so bad, after yelling "HELP". This was my last edit to Cedar Lake[1]. Four hrs. after that edit I was in the hospital getting prepared for an emergency appendectomy. I was just released from the hospital 3hrs. ago. All went well and I am fine. But I still have praise for you and everyone that participated in the AfD. My wife set up my laptop when I got settled in and my browser opens to the last page it was on when shut down. It was Cedar Lake. After I signed in I had a message waiting for me at my talk page, so I went there first, when I came back to cedar lake the first thing I noticed it wasn't flagged for deletion :). I will be writing you and everyone tomorrow, but I wanted you to know why I yelled for help and was never herd from. till later, and again Thank You Very Much. Mlpearc powwow 01:27, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to hear you've been ill. The rescue was fun, and I couldn't be happier with the results. I made quicker progress after you left because there were fewer edit conflicts, but I bet it would've been fun to work cooperatively. Let me know if you need help with any California geography articles. --Stepheng3 (talk) 03:56, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

		The Special Barnstar
		A Very Special Thanx to you Stepheng3 for your rescue of Cedar Lake. You are a first class wikipedian. Mlpearc powwow 16:42, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Oymyakon

I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 31, 2010; 04:37 (UTC)

Thank you. --Stepheng3 (talk) 05:01, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Having looked at the article's history, I thought it best to semi it. Unfortunately, it seems this kind of sneaky vandalism is more common than it seems—I've spotted one to Kazan today, and remember seeing similar edits to other articles in the past.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 2, 2010; 14:05 (UTC)

I'm not 100% sure it's vandalism. Perhaps the editors in question have sources. If so, we need to establish contact and push them to reveal their sources. Best regards,--Stepheng3 (talk) 20:47, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

If there's a better source, we definitely need to know what it is before any changes are made. I lean to thinking it's vandalism, because the anons were pointed this out on quite a few occasions and also because some IPs revert the numbers to different values each time.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 2, 2010; 20:55 (UTC)

Well, the −67.7°C figure for February record low agrees with the body of the article, which is from a different (cited) source, and that figure keeps popping up in the table every time someone other than us edits it. So it's clearly not random vandalism. That's not where the −15.7°C overall mean temperature comes from however, and it pops up just as consistently. --Stepheng3 (talk) 21:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Mapping a WikiProject

I thought you might find User talk:Plastikspork#Mapping WikiProject pages by coords? interesting. Basically, create a map showing all the articles in a WikiProject, colour coding by various things like "map needed" or "images needed" or "assessment class". Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 15:51, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

It's an interesting idea. I imagine it might be achieved most easily by creating categories such as Category:Wikipedia requested maps in California and applying {{GeoGroupTemplate}} to each category. For this to work with the existing {{GeoGroupTemplate}}, the categories would need to be flat (no subcategories). I'll experiment and see what happens.--Stepheng3 (talk) 18:04, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar Awarded!

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		In recognition of your work in general, and in particular your two fine photographs of Audubon Canyon and Bolinas Lagoon, both of which substantially improved the article I created and expanded, L. Martin Griffin, Jr., and the former photo of which is currently featured on the Main Page as I write this, as a featured listing at Did you know...! Many thanks to you, and a thousand blessings, Jusdafax 06:48, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the star. My wish is that you be likewise blessed. Keep up the good work, --Stepheng3 (talk) 17:42, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh, when I get a chance I'll take a look at your MMWD stub. It's been a while since I have been in Marin but I follow the news. Lotta controversy about desalination, eh? Jusdafax 18:18, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

The controversy hasn't reached my ears, but then, I don't live there. --Stepheng3 (talk) 18:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Reasoning that one good turn deserves another, I expanded Kent Island (California), and using your fine photo, submitted it to WP:DYK. If you have the time you might take a look at the new improved version. 8D Jusdafax 05:52, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

It's on my watchlist. Thanks! --Stepheng3 (talk) 17:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

As you are possibly aware, the Kent Island article is on the Main page DYK at present. Next in the DYK pipeline is Bolinas Ridge, again featuring one of your photos. If you have any additional photos of the ridge, especially from the top of the ridge looking west (a classic vista) I'd love to include one or more. Thanks yet again. Jusdafax 19:59, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

I'll check, but alas, I'm pretty sure I don't have that shot. However, if I can get out there this weekend, I will take my camera with me. I'd love to enjoy another 6 hrs of fame! Cheers,--Stepheng3 (talk) 21:13, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Bolinas Ridge appears in the background of File:Stinson Gulch 3430.jpg. --Stepheng3 (talk) 21:18, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Also in File:Wilkins Gulch 3438.jpg.--Stepheng3 (talk) 21:26, 18 August 2010 (UTC) Another shot of the west side at File:Bolinas Ridge 3418.JPG.--Stepheng3 (talk) 21:44, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks! I used the last one to replace another, so I guess I'm set. Waiting for the reviewers at DYK now. Jusdafax 04:38, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Fingers crossed! --Stepheng3 (talk) 04:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

NK Olimpija Ljubljana (2005)

Sorry man, the Google Translate wrongly translated the page. I just wanted to put the interwiki [[pt:Nogometni Klub Olimpija Ljubjana]] Wallinson (talk) 00:34, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Template:Infobox coord

Thanks for your last comment at {{Infobox coord}}. I know that I can be overly assertive (a jerk) at times. Sorry. –droll [chat] 04:32, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Nice to know I'm not the only one :> --Stepheng3 (talk) 04:33, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Dunbar lifeboat station

I modified this (and several other) article names to introduce a degree of consistency in naming lifeboat stations. Previously we had some articles in the form X Lifeboat Station and some in the form Y lifeboat station. Deciding what exactly is a compound proper name and what isn't is always difficult and subject to interpretation, but in deciding which to change, I took the established precedent used for railway stations, which are named Z railway station.

I certainly do not want to go back to the previous situation where we had a mixture of capitalisations, if only because that looks horrible in any article that lists them (eg. List of RNLI stations). So I will not revert my renames piecemeal. And if I were to accept your proper noun point and rename them all, I'd like as not get a complaint from somebody else for renaming one of the ones that has never been capitalised.

If you feel strongly enough about this, I suggest that you start a discussion somewhere (Talk:List of RNLI stations or somewhere else of your choice) about how lifeboat stations should be named. If you can get a consensus, I'd be happy to assist any renaming needed. -- Starbois (talk) 11:51, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Name of Ukraine

User Stepheng3: I can understand your thinking that the name Ukraine needs a definite article. It had been that way for a long time. Rules of English grammar can change, and here is an instance. See the article: Name of Ukraine#Syntax which gives evidence to back my claim that the definite article is not now approved with the name Ukraine any more than it is with the name Argentina; as in Buenos Aires is the Argentina capital. That is acceptable alternative to Buenos Aires is Argentina's capital. If you wish to justify your revision of my edit of the Jijia River (Prut) article that I made on the 15th of August 2010, please cite some reliable source. I will wait some time for reply before reverting your revision. You can also consider the numerous similar changes that I have made fixing the name Ukraine in my contributions list. They tend to go unchallenged.

I see from your contributions list that you do much for Wikipedia. Onward, Wikipedia! --Fartherred (talk) 00:03, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

You're right about the definite article. My information was out-of-date. I see you've already reverted my edit, so all's well. --Stepheng3 (talk) 22:16, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Otorohanga

Hi Stepheng3! So this'll be uber random, but thanks for fixing up the co-ordinates on Otorohanga! I'm a bit of a rookie and couldn't get them right :) Youre a great asset to wiki! Happyfeijoa (talk) 09:54, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Scientology and California

Please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_California#Relevant_AFD_discussion_page

Thank you, WhisperToMe (talk) 08:45, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Coordinates

Good job on detecting the fakes! I have left a message on the users talkpage just to inform. Kind regards. Rehman⁽⁺⁾ 13:33, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Remember to assume good faith until proven otherwise. It often happens that people mis-convert coordinates to dms format, assuming that 39.8765 degrees is the same thing as 39 degrees, 87 minutes, and 65 seconds. The thing I don't understand is why they fail to notice the bold red error messages that their edits create. --Stepheng3 (talk) 15:48, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Very true. Rehman⁽⁺⁾ 15:53, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

A note to self: try to be more diplomatic in my edit summaries. --Stepheng3 (talk) 15:56, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Cedar Lake again

Thought you might be interested in this Talk:Cedar Lake (California). Mlpearc powwow 00:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

The delayed reaction is weird. As far as I can see, Cedar Lake (California) is in no danger of deletion. However, they're right that you really 'should' read the WP:Notability and WP:Deletion guidelines, especially if you intend to create new articles or participate in deletion debates. --Stepheng3 (talk) 00:38, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Will do thank you. Mlpearc powwow 01:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Pending changes/Straw poll on interim usage

Hi. As you recently commented in the straw poll regarding the ongoing usage and trial of Pending changes, this is to notify you that there is an interim straw poll with regard to keeping the tool switched on or switching it off while improvements are worked on and due for release on November 9, 2010. This new poll is only in regard to this issue and sets no precedent for any future usage. Your input on this issue is greatly appreciated. Off2riorob (talk) 23:49, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

coord parameter syntax

Thanks for fixing these in several articles I edited. Once again bitten by the confusing syntax of parameters for the template (and perhaps wishfully thinking that there might be a meaningful way to flag source/mouth attributes on a linear feature such as a river). older ≠ wiser 17:55, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: please join the discussion

Sorry, but when personal attacks are being levied by another party, productive discussion can't happen, so there's no point in my discussing or in editing without discussing. Nyttend (talk) 20:43, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Stub templates

I didn't know this standard used for stub templates. Ok, no problem. So, i provide to revert my edits to other paeges of Liechtensteiner municipalities (out of Triesen). Greetings. --Dэя-Бøяg 01:38, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

It's a collaborative project ;-) . --Dэя-Бøяg 17:24, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Caps changes

Are you aware of the fact that one editor was raked over the coals and banned for a while for unnecessary changes of {{reflist}} to {{Reflist}}? Every thing does not need to start with a capital letter, especially templates. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:16, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Take a look at this. The issue is more complex then I remember, but that link gets you into the area. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:03, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

My personal opinion is that lower case is better and I think that is how most editors actually enter them. This is probably one of those changes that should not be done. I have nothing specific to say about your edits. I just noticed one of your changes and I thought I should make you aware that there was some discussion. I will say that I may start revering some of these as unnecessary, but is that worth an edit? Vegaswikian (talk) 06:28, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

OK, enjoy. This is probably one of the lose-lose types of things. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:08, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

List of municipalities in California

Hi, Stepheng3. Thanks for your message at my talk page. I've responded there and on the article's talk page. — Ipoellet (talk) 16:58, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Your response was very helpful. Thank you.--Stepheng3 (talk) 17:00, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Elevation reference datums

Hi Stephen. The elevations on German Wikipedia are usually linked to the datum from which they are measured i.e. Normalnull at Amsterdam and Metres above the Adriatic etc. However this information is lost on English Wikipedia because we don't seem to bother with the reference datums. That may not be too smart because they sometimes vary by as much as a few metres. I have partially tried to redress this in the {{Höhe}} template which recognises the main ones used by Germany and Austria, but that's about the limit of my expertise. Are you able to upgrade the main templates (I guess these would be {{Coord}} and {{Geobox}} to be smart enough to recognise elevation datums as well? Perhaps they could call up {{Höhe}}, although the latter would need to be gradually translated/expanded to cover all the datums around the world. --Bermicourt (talk) 19:02, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm fairly good at template editing. {{Coord}} is full-protected, so I would need admin assistance there. I'm still trying to decide if elevations in {{Coord}} are a Good Thing. --Stepheng3 (talk) 23:49, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Inatel

In response to your request on my talk page I have userfied this article at User:Stepheng3/Inatel. I look forward to seeing you post a vastly improved and less promotional version of the article. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:09, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Done. Thank you for you cooperation. I hope you like it. --Stepheng3 (talk) 01:50, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Much better. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:30, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Exactly what I was looking for!--S. Rich (talk) 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

WP California in the Signpost

"WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject California for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Also, if you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 03:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Reply: A note about category placement

Thank you for the point mentioned about category placement. I did not notice it earlier. I will be more cautious in future.

With regards, Joy1963 ^Talk 18:03, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi Stepheng3,

Thanks for the warm welcome to Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates. I was a bit confused by your comment on my talk page that coordinates_type overrides coordinates_region. My understanding was they are two separate things.

My understanding:

Coordinates_Type indicates what is being identified which drives the zoom level/scale (and probably metrics elsewhere)
Coordinates_Region indicates where the geographic coordinate lies.

Based on your comment it seems like you are recommending to leave Coordinates_Type blank, which would mean I have to set the scale manually as the region doesn't provide enough information.

What is the reasoning behind this and is this the case across Wikipedia or only for the Infobox Settlement template?

Thanks in advance,

Linelor (talk) 01:08, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I think I understand. Coordinates_Type is not the same as the "Type" on coordinates. This means instead of defining Coordinates_Type = adm2nd and Coordinates_Region = CA-NS, I should simply have Coordinates_Type = region:CA-NS_type:adm2nd. For the record this is confusing, but I understand it now. "Coordinate_Type" might be better named "Coordinate_Attributes". Thanks for the help! --Linelor (talk) 04:19, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Wrong revert

Hello. Maybe you should search another hobby? Looks like you lost the ability to make the difference between constructive and destructive changes? I'm talking about this and the result. I know, it's hard to be accurate, but please, keep in mind that there are still people who actually want to contribute valueable changes and you seem to be an obstacle to such people with your inattentiveness. No need to answer - I won't come back. Thank you and good bye. --93.244.243.32 (talk) 20:33, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing the error to my attention. Don't know what happened there, but I've corrected my mistake. I'm sorry you chose to take the revert personally. --Stepheng3 (talk) 20:40, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Huron Tract Geobox upgrade

Hi there, tks so much for the geobox upgrade. I wasn't sure how to fix that or the coordinate conflict. Good to have a little help in that region. CJ_WeißSchäfer 22:02, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Code correction Template:Infobox Indian jurisdiction

Sorry for that, I will document it soon. Don't revert, if reverted the consequences will reflect on all pages where it is used--Logical Thinker:talk 08:20, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

On disabling ClueBot NG

Smash!

You've been squished by a whale!
Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something really silly.

A bit of research and time was in order before being "bold" in disabling a major anti vandal bot methinks. 930913 (Congratulate/Complaints) 01:35, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Is the "whale" template intended as a joke, or as a personal threat? --Stepheng3 (talk) 04:57, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Its intended use is as a joke, just like the . Look inside and you'll notice it's intended solely to be humorous. mechamind 9 0 08:03, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

As Mechamind90 said the template said, it's merely a humorous way of me telling you that I think what you did was silly. Trouting is the more common one, I used whaling to emphasise how silly I thought it was. Turning off the main AV bot puts more strain on human AVs, and as such, is not a decision to be taken lightly. 930913 (Congratulate/Complaints) 15:06, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

I fail to see what was silly about what I did. Nor did I make the decision lightly; I spent most of yesterday on research into the bot's behavior and discussion of the false-positive issue.

The {{Whale}} template is a queer sort of joke to play on someone you hardly know. The message says "this could always happen to you". Curious about the referent, I clicked on the link, which it took me to a news story about a yacht that was damaged by a 40-ton whale. If I'm the whale and ClueBot NG is the yacht, then please rest assured that I did no lasting damage to the bot. If I am the yacht, then who or what is the whale that I'm supposed to beware of?

I already have ample drama in my life. If you think I've made a mistake (silly or not), you should revert me, and then let's discuss it seriously. Please, no more jokes of this sort on my talk-page. --Stepheng3 (talk) 18:26, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

No need to take it so seriously. Trouting, and by extension whaling, is just a humorous way to disagree with another user. There is no metaphorical whale or yacht; simply one user slapping you with a large, smelly trout (presumably a tradition spawned on IRC, where I had first seen it) in response to an action you have taken, or may be one in response to an action you haven't taken (I.e. trouting someone for -not- responding.) Lighten up, man. :) -- SnoFox^(t|c) 06:36, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Will try. --Stepheng3 (talk) 18:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

If you would, please help me make less work

I started to patrol all Iowa communities about 2 weeks ago and you came onto my radar by your edit of Carroll Township, Tama County, Iowa‎. Although I did not do the edit that put the coordinates into Carroll Township a couple of days ago, I know who did and s/he did the same for several townships. I would like to prevent the need for someone like you to follow behind and correct these. Just this month a Division of Project Iowa called Communities was activated and is still in the construction phase. I am here to ask for your help as you seem knowledgeable about Geographical coordinates and you are a member of WP:GEO COOR. If I could ask you to do one of two things either point me to an coordinates for "dummies" page or I would be very grateful if you could go to our Communities page at WP:IA/C (still under construction) and edit in the correct language and how coordinates should be listed, the correct location in the article and an explanation for each type of community (state, county, incorporated city, unincorporated city and township).
Thanks --RifeIdeas Talk 04:28, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips, I will look over the links and if I have questions I will ask. Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and have a Fantastic New Year. --RifeIdeas Talk 05:19, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

I am back and would really appreciate it if you and possibly others from WP:GEO COOR could now look over Wikipedia:WikiProject Iowa/Communities#Coordinates for communities. I am unsure about some of the material and assumptions i made. I did use a template {{Not Sure}} (

Not sure) to mark the points in question, although an over all assessment would be appreciated. I do not take offense to constructive criticism
Thanks again for your help.--RifeIdeas Talk 01:47, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

		Thanks Thanks Thanks (The Standing Ovation Award)
		In recognition of your "revamp" (kind words for a total overhall) of the section on Coordinates for us at Wikipedia:WikiProject Iowa/Communities.--RifeIdeas Talk 15:06, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

You took my basic concept and converted it into a concise and well constructed "how it should be done" section.
Again thanks, --RifeIdeas Talk 15:06, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

I am back again to ask about 3 things. 1) I tried the external link The Geographic Names Information System and found it would not work as I had no cookie, but I think I it can be fixed by removing the last /f from the http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f do you agree? 2) in the Hiawatha example the |coordinates_type = is left blank sould it not read |coordinates_type = region:US-IA_type:city ? 3) Although it is not needed could/should a state description like Use "|region:US-IA_type:adm1st" for the state of Iowa. be added just for a full explanation of the region types?
--RifeIdeas Talk 23:06, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

You provided the starting point, showing what an Iowa communities contributor might need to know about geocoordinates: something I couldn't have done. I corrected and clarified it, which is something I'm good at and enjoy doing. Together, we created content that neither of us could've created alone. This sort of collaboration brings satisfaction of its own, but I sure do appreciate the ovation. Thank you.

In response to your questions:

Removing the final "/f" from the URL should cause the link to work. I'll fix.
{{Infobox settlement}} should generate the correct coordinate parameters for Hiawatha, so there's no point in specifying |coordinates_type= there. As I noted, however, |coordinates_type= is useful for townships.
I tried to keep the section brief and to-the-point. You could document "type:adm1st" if you want, but as you say, it isn't needed. The full documentation is at Template:Coord/doc, which lists about 18 legal values for the type: parameter. --Stepheng3 (talk) 21:00, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Birati

The enotes.com external link you added in November is a Wikipedia mirror. Please take more care when adding links or references. Fences&Windows 22:35, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. However, I didn't add that link; I merely moved it from another part of the article. The link was added by this edit. —Stepheng3 (talk) 20:31, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay, easy to miss that it's a poor link if just formatting. Fences&Windows 20:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)