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notes to self: "how would an academic journal present this?"

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Reliability

Hello, nice to see people working on wine-related articles. However, your articles, while referenced, are way too promotional in tone. Look at the first sentence of the Margaret River (wine region), for example: "Margaret River is one of the most immediately recognised wine regions of Australia by both domestic and international audiences." That's not how an encyclopedic entry should start, following WP:NPOV and WP:LEAD! I recommend Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a wine guide for reading! Regards, Tomas e (talk) 12:25, 6 October 2009 (UTC)


If it helps, my trick for figuring out wording is "how would an academic journal present this?" It does come out sounding a bit dry, but it generally works. A lot of my stuff is on obscure geographical and political topics so I concede this is probably easier to write about in such a form, although there's the moments where I'm writing and trying not to laugh, such as Mundingburra state by-election, 1996#Other_events. Orderinchaos 00:22, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


More copyvio?

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Hello SpringSummerAutumn, could I ask you to have a second look at all the articles you have created, with the copyvio policy in mind? Looking at articles such as Concours Mondial de Bruxelles and Langton’s Classification of Australian Wine, they contain sentences which look like could very well have been lifted from somewhere else. Tomas e (talk) 13:36, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Australia’s First Families of Wine

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Hi and welcome to wikipedia, nice to have someone working on Australian wine!! I have seen you start working on especially australian wine pages, and seen you add lots of text about Australia’s First Families of Wine to multiple pages, I think this is a bit WP:ADS, I have not done anything about it, but now after you added the same to Henschke, I reverted it from there. I do not think that it is resonable to have 9 lines of text talking about this Australia’s First Families of Wine in a small article like that,it is questionable in my opinion if Australia’s First Families of Wine would survive an WP:AFD, but I normally do not list pages that is seams to be truthful and does exists, but we do not need the same text in 10 pages again and again. Please read WP:ADS, WP:POV and generally try to make the pages you update more ensyclopeadic, and not so sales related. --Stefan talk 08:18, 11 October 2009 (UTC)









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In 2003 Dr Ian J Rooke, professor of Ornithology, University of Western Australia identified 26 species of birds within the estate.[1]

Cited books

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  • Oz Clarke (2002). 'Oz Clarke's Pocket Wine Guides'. Harcourt. ISBN 978-0151009121.
  • James Halliday (2009). Australian Wine Companion. Hardie Grant books. ISBN 978-1740666473.
  • Ray Jordan (2009). Ray Jordan's WA Wine Guide. The West Australian, Australia. ISBN 9781921048296.
  • Dr John Gladstones (1992). Viticulture and Environment. Winetitles. ISBN 0-875130-12-8. {{cite book}}: Check |isbn= value: checksum (help)
  • Campbell Mattinson (2007). ‘Why the French hate us’. Hardie Grant Books. ISBN 978-1740666039.
  • The Australian and New Zealand wine industry directory, 27th Annual edition. Winetitles. 2009. ASIN B0000EHJLC. ISBN 10337954. {{cite book}}: Check |isbn= value: length (help)
  • Hugh Johnson & Jancis Robinson. The World Atlas of Wine. Mitchell Beazley; 6th Revised edition edition year= 2007. ISBN 978-1845334147. {{cite book}}: Missing pipe in: |publisher= (help)
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Albany Lat: 35 02’S; Alt: 75 m; Hdd: 1495; Gsr: 303 mm; Mjt: 19C; Harvest: Early Mid-March to end April; Chief Viticultural Hazard: Birds.

Denmark Lat: 31 56’S; Alt: 50-150 m; Hdd: 1471; Gsr: 354 mm; Mjt: 18.7C; Harvest: Early March to late April; Chief Viticultural Hazard: Birds.

Frankland River Lat: 34 39’S; Alt: 200-300 m; Hdd: 1441; Gsr: 310 mm; Mjt: 19C; Harvest: Mid-March to mid-April; Chief Viticultural Hazard: Drought; Birds.

  1. ^ Ian J Rooke, Technical series (Western Australia. Agriculture Protection Board), Royal Australasian Ornithologists Union 2003