Sounds cool, I'll have to keep an eye out for it. Reuters is definatley a good source, but I agree it doesn't warrent its own article just yet. Blackngold29 18:26, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
- I hate to keep nit-picking this because it isn't really a big deal, but what if we only put the for "Articles which have received considerable edits and/or a complete overhaul from the Slipknot Project, but do not have adaquate info to become GAs":
- — All Hope Is Gone
- 9.0: Live
- Welcome to Our Neighborhood
- — Disasterpieces
- Just thought it was a little crowded with the goat by all of them, but like I said it's no big deal either way. Blackngold29 03:55, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
- I think that the is equal to the picture at 16px. So we could put the GAN's in at that size. It's kind of difficult to tell the traditional pic from the at that size, so maybe we could use the ? Either one will work. Blackngold29 04:18, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
- Looks good to me. Do you want to start working on Volinial now? I see no reason why we can't handle Disasterpices's GA review at the same time, we've done it before. Did you hear Sid hurt both of his legs jumping on stage? He did a show in two leg casts and sitting in a wheelchair today. Blackngold29 04:41, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
- I was actually thinking December 2 since that was when it was first released. Oh wait, didn't it have a theatrical release or something like that? Was that before or after the DVD? Blackngold29 05:07, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
- I guess just go with the 5th and then if the GA reviewer says something we can change it. Blackngold29 05:13, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
- Heh, I know the feeling. Get some sleep, maybe I'll screw around with it some (It's only 1am here). Blackngold29 05:18, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Do you have much more to add for the article? I added a few things to the Reception in the article, but didn't add them in your sandbox (Including the Blogcritics review, and chart prose). The article is shaping up nicely. Blackngold29 03:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- I just hope we've got enough stuff for the singles. Oh, I wanted to ask now that we've got all the main stuff done: Do you think it would be worth getting Slipknot (band) up to FA? We could get a peer review and then scan through it pretty throughly. With the info we've used for the albums we basically have any info that's missing, we just have to add it; although it's a pretty solid article right now. Blackngold29 04:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds like a plan. Shall I remove Voliminial from Aof and add Slipknot band members? Blackngold29 04:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- Ooo pretty colors on that timeline. lol. Sounds good, I'll take care of the Aof stuff. Blackngold29 04:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- I assume we're gonna use List of Nine Inch Nails live-band members as a model... So we won't need the "Band members by instrument" section, will we? Blackngold29 05:01, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- How are we listing current members? Order joined, Number, Reverse number, alphabetically? And should we include the numbers? Blackngold29 05:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, see ya tomorrow. I'll take the night (or day) shift. Good work! Blackngold29 06:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- I added another timeline. We should obviously pick one or the other. I think the one with the releases shows better how all nine members have stayed together so well, but we'll probably mention that in the prose anyway. I was gonna start writing prose for some of the members, but a quick scan of each of their articles turned up very few sources, I'm sure we'll be able to find some. Blackngold29 08:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I actually started a list for one of my other favorite bands in my sandbox. Basically I wrote a history of the band, with a large concentration on the members. It is longer than the NIN one, even though there are only nine members total, so maybe we could split it up or something. List of Major League Baseball players from Puerto Rico has a second section after the intro, but I'm not sure we'll have enough for something that size. Blackngold29 02:37, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- The intro is looking good, but I don't know if it should be too much longer. Blackngold29 05:03, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- I think it's reasonable. It's difficult to trim it down because there are so many people. If there are any problems we could always move info out of the intro and into the individual people's sections. I actually did the opposite with List of Dream Theater band members, the intro is long, but each person doesn't have their own recap. I'll wait until we do this one to nom that one, hopefully I'll pick up a few pointers. Blackngold29 05:15, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- Were you gonna nom this right away or have someone look at it first? Blackngold29 05:23, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm working on my reply right now. Do you think I could drop a note to Gary King to proofread the intro, he seems to be a good writer and evidently has some intrest in the band? Blackngold29 05:30, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- Wow, I didn't even realize that. Maybe another Promotion period? Those FACs can get pretty picky. Blackngold29 05:39, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I like them. Joey's black cymbol's are awesome. We should have plenty for the AHIG article too, I suppose we could add a touring section to that. Blackngold29 17:55, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- Oops no. I'll do that now. Blackngold29 18:27, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- I like the timeline in your sandbox. It certainly makes sense to me. Blackngold29 19:59, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- I went through the band members prose and fixed a few minor things. Sentences that start "In [year]" are usually followed by a comma, but other than that it was good. The only thing I'm wondering about is at the end of the first paragraph when it says a "turntablist", Is turntablist a word? It's not listed on Dictionary.com, but I don't know what else to call such a person. Blackngold29 03:35, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds good. Did you want to start through the Slipknot (band) article for the FAC now? I mean, we won't nominate it until we've taken care of most of this other stuff, but we could start being really picky with it sense there aren't any issues to fix with the noms at the moment. Blackngold29 03:53, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I don't care what we do; I just figured we could do something while we're waiting for all the reviews to start happening. If you have any preferences of who or what to do next... If we are gonna do a member we should probably find a "model article" and then use that for each member, just like how each album article was pretty similar. Once we got the format down for those we flew through them. Blackngold29 04:08, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry about the two messeges in a row, but we could do Portal:Slipknot. It does need a a new beginning from scratch, because I had no clue what I was doing when I started it. We don't have to do it all at once either. Blackngold29 04:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- I guess we'll be learning together 'cause I don't know a ton. Basically we start with 5 of everyting (pictures, biographies, etc.) Each one is subtitled: Portal:Slipknot/Selected article/4 with the 4 changing for each one (Selected article 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.). Now, we just have to fill in each one. And then when you click on "Show me new selections" it will automatically shuffle them up. Blackngold29 04:24, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- I liked the border so it matched WP:SLIP. You could check out Portal:Featured portals too. Whatever else you wanna do, go for it! I'll start working through the articles first, I have some done already. Blackngold29 04:31, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- I have all of the articles done (there's seven). Basically I went through and copy and pasted the intro paragraph from each good article that we wrote. Unfortunately, the bios will be a little more difficult, sense we haven't writen any yet. I guess I'll do the pictures next. Blackngold29 04:54, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
We should be able to use each member's number for their biography. I guess Sid will be 9. Lookin' very good! Blackngold29 05:08, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- I think if we want to get it to a Featured Portal we'll eventually have to add them. But until we go through and clean everybody's up it would probably look nicer to leave it out. As we go through each member we can add it to the Featured article list and then when we have most of them done we can add the Featured bio. Blackngold29 05:33, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Haha, we started with nothing and built that thing with 7 FAs, 5 FPs, and a brand new layout in about an hour. Damn, we're good. Blackngold29 05:38, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- No problem. I think it looks pretty good, but it'll give us something to do when we only need a small project to work on. Don't you ever sleep? Blackngold29 06:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm the same way because I have no classes right now and I like staying up late, but for some stupid reason I scheduled my classes to start at 9am everyday next semester so I'll have to wake up "early". Do you think it's even worth doing a newsletter this month? Blackngold29 06:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- I was kind of thinking that the point of it was to keep people informed, and we've got about four of us... But yeah it's good to look back on what we've done. I'll start one in my sandbox. Blackngold29 06:29, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Do you have any lyrics? Blackngold29 06:40, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- I put the 19th on it for no reason, but it's pretty much done. I'm gonna go to sleep now, it's almost 4am, so if you want to change anything and then send it out you're welcome to. If not, I'll do it tomorrow, no big deal. I am surprised that Disasterpieces still hasn't been reviewed, hopefully in the next day or two. Anyway, we did some good work tonight; I think the Portal will take a while to get to Featured status, but it'll kick ass when it's done. Good ... well, I guess it's morning for you ... lol, see ya tomorrow. Blackngold29 07:41, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Wow, that's a lot of stuff. I think that we could move some of the stuff from the current "Musical and lyrical themes" section to "Promotion". Taylor's quote about ripping faces off isn't that descriptive of lyrical themes. I don't know if we should divide it up by song or not. I re-wrote Systematic Chaos and had enough to mention each song. When I wrote it I put all of the songs in one section of two paragraphs, since then somebody split them all up. I don't think each song has enough to have it's own section, like this one, yet. I did think about putting them like they are now in your sandbox, with the bolded heading for each song, but not a real "heading". I'm sure we'll be able to figure something out. Blackngold29 18:20, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- That sounds good. I guess that Corey's interview talked about lyrics and not so much music, but I think a lot of the music themes came from reviews, on past albums anyway. Do you have a link for the podcast? Thanks. Blackngold29 18:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Those are cool, they look like random guys playing Xbox. As for where to use them, they would probably work in their own articles. Was it some Mayhem event? If it was then we could put a few on the Mayhem article. But I don't really see them fitting in in to many other places. Blackngold29 20:04, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- I think this article could either go in the Mayhem or AHIG articles. Thoughts? Blackngold29 20:26, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, just to let you know I'll be busy all day tomorrow, but should be able to get on sometime at night. I always thought writing stuff was the hard part, but sitting around waiting for reviews and comments is boring! Blackngold29 03:05, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- We could add that part of the new metal hammer interview with Joey to his article when we get to it. The part about him "going upside-down" and falling is probably notable, I don't know of any other drummers who have attempted anything else close to that. Blackngold29 12:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- Check this out. If we can get Vol. 3 up to FA status and AHIG a GA when it comes out we could have our first Featured Topic! Blackngold29 04:53, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Do you just want to start collecting sources in a sandbox for whatever we do next? Blackngold29 04:58, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I was thinking the same thing, maybe we should do whichever article is the most popular. I think most people would look at the albums first, then probably the members. Corey and Joey are two the come to mind when I think "most popular", since they've done some other side projects. I don't know how good we'll be able to get any members, because they purposely keep their personal lives private. "Duality" and "Before I Forget" are probably the two most popular singles (I think we should wait for the new ones), we could probably write a pretty good reception section for either of those. Blackngold29 04:49, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- Whichever one you have more sources for. lol. Blackngold29 04:56, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- I found this book on Google Books. We could use page 7 as a General reference on the List of Slip members, it also includes the months for each member's join/leave so we could make the timeline more exact. Blackngold29 05:18, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- It looks like Joey has more sources on Google Books (which is a great source btw) so let's go with him. I guess we won't be putting this "into focus" yet, so is your sandbox open for a bunch of random links? Blackngold29 06:08, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, it was cool. It was with the Volimial guy (Dan Epstein, who works for Revolver, I believe). Do we really need a "source" though? I mean, You Tube obviously isn't reliable but I don't think there could be a more reliable source than video of him talking. Blackngold29 07:19, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, got ya. Well, I don't have too many more sources (for tonight anyway). I forgot how many different other things he's done, should be fun learning more about him outside of Slipknot. Oh, and if you haven't seen the higher quality Psychosocial vid, there it is. Damn, that's a good song. Blackngold29 07:36, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'll look over it now. As far as the Slipknot section goes, we could add some reviews for the albums that specifically talk about him; I know there were a few that pointed him out as a highlight. Blackngold29 01:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
- Do you think we should include the Filmography section too? Blackngold29 07:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
- How much do you know about the Murderdolls? I don't know much, but I could try to write some of that section if you don't know much either. Blackngold29 02:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- Do you know who was in "The Rejects"? Some articles say that Murderdolls was a revival of Rejects, but others make it sound like they were all recruited by Jordison. I dunno. Blackngold29 02:41, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, cool. I realized that I should probably talk more about Joey's involvement with the band and not write a whole history of it. Blackngold29 02:54, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- Haha, that last edit popped up on My Watchlist as a big red (-666), must be a good sign. Anyway, do you think the Murderdolls section is long enough? Is there anything else you want me to write out? Also, I think the guitar equiptment needs a source. Blackngold29 04:04, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Are the Equiptment sections really necessary? I don't play the drums, but I don't think too many people are coming on looking for that specific of info ("Ow, he uses a 14" x 12" Tom" lol). Dave Lombardo does list them, but they aren't sourced; I'm surprised that passed the GA review, unless it was added after. Blackngold29 04:25, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm gonna re-read the Band members list intro right now, per the FLC comments. I'll get back to Joey when I'm done with that. Blackngold29 04:30, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- I accidently wrote a bit about RU, it's on the page. I like having his quotes in there, what do ya say? Blackngold29 05:24, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah that was my fault. Uhh, about the influences, there's really only one. The other two just compliment him. Or we could just put, "He's fuckin' amazing, just trust us..." and sign our names. ;) Thoughts on that? Oh and cite 16 is screwed up. Blackngold29 05:35, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know what it's supposed to include, but we don't have anything besides Korn listed as an influence. He must have an interview somewhere that he says, "I liked this band and that band, etc." but I don't have it. Blackngold29 05:50, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- You know, I don't think we really need a Style section. If you can find sources then great, but if we can finish the intro and bulk up the Slipknot section a little more I think the length is OK. Like I said it's nice to have, but don't go crazy looking if you have trouble. We're only going for a GA here, so I don't think it's vital. Blackngold29 06:13, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, sounds good. I have to go sleep now, but I think we should be able to finish this up tomorrow. In an semi-related note, I watched Metal: A Headbanger's Journey on YouTube after I saw it in Joey's filmog. He's only in it breifly with Corey, but overall I thought it was an excellent documentary. It's about 90min, but if you look on YouTube you can get through the whole thing in 10 min chunks. I'd recomend it if you haven't seen it. Good work! Blackngold29 06:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- Awesome. See ya tomorrow, probably at night again. Blackngold29 06:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'll be back in a few hours. I'll finish the intro and hopfully we can beat this thing into final form. Blackngold29 21:16, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- I think we should say something about his mask when he plays for other bands, do you have any sources for that? Also, there was a picture at the commons of him unmasked, do you think that would be worth adding? Blackngold29 03:46, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
- He's wearing it in the picture with Metallica there, but that was right after a Slip concert so that'd be why. But we could mention that he only wears the mask for Slipknot performances, so people don't think he's like Buckethead who always wears his mask or something. Blackngold29 04:00, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, that sounds awesome. We don't have too much about him outside of his music playing, do we have anything about his family life, girlfriends, something? Blackngold29 13:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry about the multi hour break there. Maybe we could rename the "Early life" section "Personal life"? Since we don't have enough for a new section. Blackngold29 22:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
- Do you have any info about Vol. 3's Spe Edi cover? There was a comment on the FAC page about it, and I don't know if it is required, but it would be a good addition if you have anything. It pretty much looks like a band picture with the Houdini Mansion in the background, but I can't cite that, that's just what it is. Blackngold29 06:45, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
- The AHIG looks like a damn fine article, for an album that hasn't been released yet. 32 Days! Anyway, do you have anything else to add to Joey's article? I'll start proof-reading it if not. Blackngold29 03:37, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- I was going through the article (backwards as I usually do) and I thought that "Jordison has always been closely involved in almost every aspect..." (1st two sentences of 3rd "Other musical endeavours" paragraph) seemed out of place. It should probably be in Slipknot or Murderdolls section, thoughts? As for the "Style" section, I think we can wait and see. If the GA reviewer requests one then we could probably throw something together, but I don't think it's vital. I just c/e'd the whole article and I think it's ready for a GAN, you can take a last look over it if you want to. You can throw that Kerrag! stuff in there too if you want. Blackngold29 04:14, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- I think Jordision ready for a GAN. Thoughts? Blackngold29 19:09, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- You've probably seen it already, but there's a few comments on the band member's FLC that you could probably handle better than me as you're the one with the book. I did what I could. Blackngold29 07:58, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- Is there any way that we could elaborate on why Joey was dubbed #1? I think it would help his article, and I actually can't say I've ever heard why they got the numbers that they got, is it just by instrument? Blackngold29 04:56, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- I was asking because it was added and without a source I don't think it's correct to say he was "assigned" num 1. It should probably be mentioned in the prose somewhere. Blackngold29 05:32, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- What do you think of the MFKR genre discussion? Blackngold29 19:34, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I was trying to upload some picture from flickr to the commons, but for some reason they won't show up. I was using Bryan's tool which seemed easy enough, but I guess not. When it says "Link to Flickr image" does it want the: main page, larger size, or just the picture? Or is there another way to do it? Thanks. Blackngold29 07:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- Well, for other images, which one would I use? Blackngold29 15:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- I wonder why your stuff won't load, every so often my internet gets real slow, but it usually works again within a few hours. Anyway, let me know the link when it starts working again. Thanks. Did you want to start another article of focus, or wait until your internet loads again? Blackngold29 17:45, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- I guess we'll just have to wait it out then, I have plenty of other stuff to work on, so it's no big deal. Hope it doesn't take too long for ya, because I would probably go nuts if I couldn't get on the internet. I guess you'll just have to find a good book. Blackngold29 18:11, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- I think I got the Flickr thing figured out now, just waiting on the Bot to approve them. I haven't done any of Slipknot yet, but I'll look more later. And if you can't get any other pages to load, Slipknot band members passed! Blackngold29 07:21, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
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