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Pine googletests

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Google result number for pine scientific/vernacular names. All searches were performed with -wikipedia as a search term. Reported results are the value given at the bottom of the last page of results (arrived at last page by entering "990" for Google's "start=" parameter). Bolded entries are vernacular names beating the scientific name, or the scientific name if unbeaten by vernacular names.

  • "Pinus maximartinezii" 302
    • "Big cone pinyon" 69
    • "Martinez pinyon" 59
    • "maxipiñon" 42
  • "Pinus cembroides" 421
    • "Mexican pinyon" 390
    • "Mexican nut pine" 104
    • "Mexican stone pine" 49
  • "Pinus pinaster" 259
    • "Pinus pinaster" -"bark extract" 238
    • "Maritime pine" 336 (lots of results for a medicinal extract from the bark)
    • "Maritime pine" -"bark extract" 282 (still has results with just bark or extract though)
    • "Cluster pine" 409 (includes addresses on streets named "Cluster Pine")
    • "Cluster pine" -"bark extract" 417
  • "Pinus durangensis" 362
    • "Durango pine" 482 (lots of irrelevant results though). Some English sources are using the ambiguous Spanish term "ocote"
  • "Pinus merkusii" 337
    • "Sumatran pine" 347
    • "Merkus pine" 300
    • "Mindoro pine" 192
  • "Pinus squamata" 320
    • "Qiaojia pine" 167
  • "Pinus sibirica" 404
    • "Siberian pine" 305
    • "Siberian stone pine" 232
  • "Pinus kesiya" 300
    • "Khasi pine" 358
    • "Benguet pine" 317
    • "Luzon pine" 125
    • "Khasia pine" 169
  • "Pinus krempfii" 237
    • "Krempf's pine" 154

Dab term tables

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23 March 2015

Project (genus) (projectname) all pages with parenthetical disambiguator
Animal 10 8 95
Amphibians and reptiles 38 4 (amphibian or reptile) 145
Arthropods 63 3 141
Beetles 46 27 79
Birds 60 98 553
Bivalves 40 14 67
Cephalopods 3 4 20
Fishes 85 135 276
Gastropods 14 297 391
Insects 252 38 801
Lepidoptera 136 1067 (moth or butterfly) 1540
Mammals 31 4 196
Rodents 2 4 22
Spiders 22 101 144
Dinosaurs 1 25 44
Palaeontology 50 N/A 197
Marine life 17 N/A 64
Fungi 6 135 202
Plants 123 629 1667
Totals 999 2593 6644

Updated table 16 October 2018

Project (genus) (projectname) all pages with parenthetical disambiguator
Animal 29 22 241
Amphibians and reptiles 53 9 (amphibian or reptile) 196
Arthropods 67 7 225
Beetles 85 167 271
Birds 75 198 704
Bivalves 0 60 75
Cephalopods 7 5 39
Fishes 95 161 326
Gastropods 8 367 451
Insects 225 87 1401
Lepidoptera 146 1120 (moth or butterfly) 1621
Mammals 43 11 236
Rodents 2 5 35
Spiders 33 257 310
Dinosaurs 0 18 38
Palaeontology 37 N/A 314
Marine life 27 N/A 149
Fungi 1 154 232
Plants 40 874 1999
Totals 973 3522 8863

A couple notes. These figures are quick and dirty. "Total" for a project is ALL parenthetically dabbed articles (including anatomical terms and biologists). For most projects, genera account for almost all of the total, but for plants, mammals and birds, there are a large number of breed/cultivars and individual domestic animals with a dab term. And the figures in common name column may include article that aren't on genera (e.g. Operculum (fish).

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Ambiguity of "(genus)" as a disambiguator should not be underestimated. The last time this came up for plants, I did some research. I looked at the first 60 (alphabetically) plant genera that had a parenthetical disambiguator of "(plant)" or "(genus)". 22 of 60 were already disambiguated against an animal genus on Wikipedia. Checking against GBIF and Worms, I found that 45 of the 60 plant genera had a corresponding animal genus published. Granted, that included some animal genera best treated as synonyms, but there were also recognized animal genera not yet on Wikipedia. At any rate, for the plants I looked at, "(genus)" is still too ambiguous in somewhere between 35%-75% of cases.

Are 35%+ of all plant genera ambiguous with animal genera? No. But many scientific names are constructed by slapping a Latinate suffix on non-Latin personal name (as in Gordonia, or by creating a Greco-Latinate compound that nobody would've recognized 2000 years ago (as in Actinopeltis). If these weird hybrid terms are ambiguous with anything it's almost always going to be another genus constructed using the same rules, and "(genus)" won't work to disambiguate. Then there are scientific names taken directly from a term that had meaning in classical Greek/Latin. Obviously, these are ambiguous from the start with the classical term, but "(genus)" might work to disambiguate these; at least as long as another biologist didn't also find the classical term evocative and appropriate it for another genus (as happened with Laelaps and Echidna (disambiguation)).

Going through WikiProject Arthropod tagged articles with [A-Za-z&quality=&importance=&score=&pagenameWC=on&limit=250&offset=1&sorta=Article+title&sortb=Quality this search], I found 132 articles that had a parenthetical disambiguatory term. 106 of these articles were on genera (the remainder being anatomical terms, biologists or taxa at ranks other than genus). 61 used "(genus)" as the dab term, and 45 used a different dab term (indeed, a horrifying mess of terms; a crab genus might be dabbed with "(crab)", "(arthropod)", "(crustacean)" or "(decapod)"). Of the 45 not using "(genus)", 31 can NOT use genus as there is already an article or redirect on Wikipedia for a different genus with the same name. Best case, if you try to standardize "(genus)" as the dab term for arthropods, you get 75 of 106 articles where it is sufficient to disambiguate. That doesn't strike me as especially consistent. If you go with "(animal)" it works in 99 of 106 cases; (animal) doesn't work for 2 articles where a genus is ambiguous with an anatomical feature in an animal, and 5 articles where there's an article or redirect for a homonymous animal genus (in two of these, there doesn't appear to be a replacement name yet for the junior homonym). If you go with "(arthropod)", it works in 101 of 106 cases (doesn't work for 1 genus/anatomy term ([[scutellum} and 4 homonymous genera that are arthropods in both uses (Battus, Cyclopyge, Harpagomorpha and Zalmoxis).

No one dab term is going to work 100% of the time. If you want the fewest number of dab terms covering the largest number of cases, (animal) is going to work far better than (genus). But (animal) is currently hardly used at all on Wikipedia and implementing it would require many moves. The current status quo is that across many organismal WikiProjects, most genera that need to be dabbed use the broadest common name(s) associated with the WikiProject's scope (e.g. fish, gastropod, etc.). The table below shows the current status quo.

Automatic taxobox usage by project

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April 10 2017

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Queried Petscan for WikiProject template on talk page and either "taxobox" (manual) or "automatic taxobox" and "speciesbox" (auto) on article page on 4/10/17. Total is via transclusion count of the template

Project Auto Manual Percentage auto
Algae 74 1513 4.9
Amphibians and Reptiles 7165 6047 54.2
Animals 710 3445 17.1
Arthropods 226 5387 4.0
Beetles 2428 22709 9.6
Birds 599 12956 4.5
Bivalves 33 1263 2.5
Cephalopods 217 1024 17.5
Cetaceans 289 5 98.3
Dinosaurs 1130 264 81.1
Fishes 2194 17371 11.2
Fungi 118 11361 1.0
Gastropods 6224 23550 20.9
Insects 8406 45361 15.6
Lepidoptera 8232 85783 8.6
Mammals 1500 5189 22.4
Marine life 434 3870 10.1
Palaeontology 5078 6859 42.5
Plants 3333 54079 5.8
Primates 271 567 32.3
Rodents 148 2892 4.9
Sharks 25 705 3.4
Spiders 4623 2430 65.5
Turtles 126 509 19.8
Viruses 0 1380 0
Total 45860 302711 13.2

13 July 2017

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Project Auto Manual Percentage auto
Algae 78 1518 4.9
Amphibians and Reptiles 10473 2874 78.5
Animals 725 3451 17.4
Arthropods 249 5409 4.4
Beetles 2454 22835 9.8
Birds 3931 9688 28.9
Bivalves 34 1268 2.6
Cephalopods 241 1026 19.0
Cetaceans 299 5 98.4
Dinosaurs 1142 262 81.3
Fishes 2484 17273 12.6
Fungi 132 11419 1.1
Gastropods 6480 23528 21.6
Insects 10275 44128 18.9
Lepidoptera 10797 83350 11.5
Mammals 1981 4950 28.6
Marine life 441 3895 10.2
Microbiology 38 7230 0.1
Palaeontology 5448 6730 44.7
Plants 8850 49233 15.2
Primates 314 540 36.8
Rodents 419 2623 13.8
Sharks 33 699 4.5
Spiders 4964 2307 68.3
Turtles 138 497 21.7
Viruses 0 1388 0
Total 64017 287686 18.2

13 August 2017

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Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto # auto added since 10 April
Algae 99 1518 1617 6.1 25
Amphibians and Reptiles 10499 2860 13359 78.6 3334
Animals 728 3461 4189 17.4 18
Arthropods 286 5393 5679 5.0 60
Beetles 2460 22856 25316 9.7 32
Birds 4879 8741 13620 35.8 4280
Bivalves 72 1235 1307 5.5 39
Cephalopods 241 1026 1267 19.0 24
Cetaceans 302 6 308 98.1 13
Dinosaurs 1173 243 1416 82.8 43
Fishes 4539 15300 19839 22.9 2345
Fungi 143 11432 11575 1.2 25
Gastropods 6596 23475 30071 21.9 372
Insects 10343 44126 54469 19.0 1937
Lepidoptera 11626 82635 94261 12.3 3394
Mammals 2239 4711 6950 32.2 739
Marine life 495 3870 4365 11.3 61
Microbiology 36 7373 7409 0.5
Palaeontology 5563 6668 12231 45.5 485
Plants 11381 46912 58293 19.5 8048
Primates 320 539 859 37.3 49
Rodents 773 2274 3047 25.4 625
Sharks 145 592 737 19.7 120
Spiders 4983 2309 7292 68.3 360
Turtles 140 496 636 22.0 14
Viruses 0 1390 1390 0 0
Total 71283 281283 352566 20.2 25423

17 December 2017

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Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto # auto added since 15 August
Algae 339 1371 1710 19.8 240
Amphibians and Reptiles 10960 2699 13659 80.8 461
Animals 819 3512 4331 18.9 91
Arthropods 324 5468 5792 5.6 38
Beetles 2484 23091 25575 9.7 24
Birds 6041 7626 13667 44.2 1162
Bivalves 80 1236 1316 6.1 8
Cephalopods 284 1012 1296 21.9 43
Cetaceans 319 9 328 97.3 17
Dinosaurs 1225 206 1431 85.6 52
Fishes 7942 12172 20114 39.5 3403
Fungi 193 11497 11690 1.7 50
Gastropods 7024 23349 30373 23.1 428
Insects 10574 44660 55234 19.1 231
Lepidoptera 16201 78413 94614 17.1 4575
Mammals 2466 4556 7022 35.1 227
Marine life 661 3804 4465 14.8 166
Microbiology 60 7924 7984 0.8 24
Palaeontology 6139 6431 12570 48.8 576
Plants 18518 40573 59091 31.3 7137
Primates 327 538 865 37.8 7
Rodents 1457 1614 3071 47.4 684
Sharks 686 48 734 93.5 541
Spiders 5099 2290 7389 69.0 116
Turtles 152 491 643 23.6 12
Viruses NA 1415 1415 NA NA
Total 91067 266198 357265 25.5 19784

21 April 2018

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I seem to have gotten into the schedule of running statistics on automatic taxobox usage every 4 months, so here is the latest update, one year in from when I begin tracking this (stats compiled April 15):

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto # auto added since 17 December % increase since 10 April 2017
Algae 943 867 1810 52.1 604 44.2
Amphibians and Reptiles 11498 2471 13969 82.3 538 28.1
Animals 1752 3409 5161 33.9 933 16.8
Arthropods 819 5547 6366 12.9 495 8.9
Beetles 3929 23306 27235 14.4 1445 4.8
Birds 8411 5285 13696 61.4 2370 56.9
Bivalves 158 1164 1322 12.0 78 9.5
Cephalopods 856 652 1508 56.8 572 39.3
Cetaceans 342 5 347 98.6 23 0.3
Dinosaurs 1256 183 1439 87.3 31 6.2
Fishes 11141 9527 20668 53.9 3199 42.8
Fungi 324 11447 11771 2.8 131 1.8
Gastropods 7653 23067 30720 24.9 629 4.0
Insects 13182 44748 57930 22.8 2608 7.2
Lepidoptera 22409 73084 95493 23.5 6208 14.9
Mammals 2863 4281 7144 40.1 397 17.7
Marine life 1525 3116 4641 32.9 864 22.8
Microbiology 98 8508 8606 1.1 38 1.0
Palaeontology 6756 6336 13092 51.6 617 9.1
Plants 25428 35659 61087 41.6 6910 35.8
Primates 666 208 874 76.2 339 43.9
Rodents 1799 1271 3070 58.6 342 53.7
Sharks 696 46 742 93.8 10 90.4
Spiders 5252 2325 7577 69.3 153 3.8
Turtles 511 136 647 79.0 359 59.2
Viruses NA 1428 1428 NA NA NA
Wikipedia 118347 247831 366178 32.3 27280 19.1

Commentary

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Numbers for the individual projects are derived from searches for project banner templates on the talk page and the various manual/auto taxobox templates in the article. This searches for Amphibian and Reptiles articles with manual taxoboxes; modify the values under the Templates&links tab to run other searches. The Wikipedia line is derived from transclusion counts for the various taxobox templates (e.g. Taxobox), and doesn't take WikiProject banners into account. Some taxon articles have multiple WikiProject banners (most frequently with Palaeontology and something else) and are included in the count above for each WikiProject. Some taxon articles don't have any WikiProject banners; the Wikipedia line does catch these (most frequently these are weird protists and palaeontological animals).

Some highlights. In December, 5 WikiProjects used automatic taxoboxes in more than 50% of articles. Now 13 WikiProjects (of 26 tracked) are using automatic taxoboxes in the majority of articles. The 3 WikiProjects with the largest number of articles (Lepidoptera, Plants and Insects) each saw several thousand articles converted to automatic taxoboxes. Overall, almost 1/3 of taxon articles are now using automatic taxoboxes, and if the pace over the last year continues, all taxon articles could have automatic taxoboxes in 4.5 years.

However, I'm not sure that universal use of automatic taxoboxes should be a goal. WikiProjects Gastropods (December 2016), WikiProject Fungi (November (2014) and WikiProject Arthropods (March 2012) have had proposals to switch to automatic taxoboxes that have attracted opposition. These three projects are largely still using manual taxoboxes.

24 May 2018

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Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto # auto added since 17 December
Algae 962 858 1820 52.9 623
Amphibians and Reptiles 11781 2445 14226 82.8 821
Animals 1866 3422 5288 35.3 1047
Arthropods 1315 5566 6881 19.1 991
Beetles 11356 23229 34585 32.8 8872
Birds 8916 4785 13701 65.1 2875
Bivalves 163 1159 1322 12.3 83
Cephalopods 865 653 1518 57.0 581
Cetaceans 356 5 361 98.6 37
Dinosaurs 1262 181 1443 87.5 37
Fishes 11374 9343 20717 54.9 3432
Fungi 329 11463 11792 2.8 136
Gastropods 7774 22984 30758 25.3 750
Insects 21085 44207 65292 32.3 10511
Lepidoptera 24314 73049 97363 25.0 8113
Mammals 2929 4246 7175 40.8 463
Marine life 1611 3066 4677 34.4 950
Microbiology 125 8615 8740 1.4 65
Palaeontology 6955 6270 13225 52.6 816
Plants 26468 34943 61411 43.1 7950
Primates 666 215 881 75.6 339
Rodents 1801 1268 3069 58.7 344
Sharks 701 47 748 93.7 15
Spiders 6199 2279 8478 73.1 1100
Turtles 512 135 647 79.1 360
Viruses NA 1430 1430 NA NA
Total 139619 245553 385172 36.2 48552

2 July 2018

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Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto # auto added since 17 December
Algae 966 859 1825 52.9 627
Amphibians and Reptiles 12042 2424 14466 83.2 1082
Animals 1999 3441 5440 36.7 1180
Arthropods 1320 5569 6889 19.2 996
Beetles 11598 23056 34654 33.5 9114
Birds 9348 4368 13716 68.2 3307
Bivalves 189 1134 1323 14.3 109
Cephalopods 870 654 1524 57.1 586
Cetaceans 356 5 361 98.6 37
Dinosaurs 1276 171 1447 88.2 51
Fishes 11728 9140 20868 56.2 3786
Fungi 477 11339 11816 4.0 284
Gastropods 7889 22905 30794 25.6 865
Insects 21498 43921 65419 32.9 10924
Lepidoptera 24863 72695 97558 26.3 8662
Mammals 2947 4233 7180 41.0 481
Marine life 1754 2951 4705 37.3 1093
Microbiology 230 8592 8822 2.6 170
Palaeontology 7045 6264 13309 52.9 906
Plants 27486 34100 61586 44.6 8968
Primates 668 214 882 75.7 341
Rodents 1870 1200 3070 60.9 413
Sharks 702 47 749 93.7 16
Spiders 6228 2272 8500 73.3 1129
Turtles 513 135 648 79.2 361
Viruses NA 1431 1431 NA NA
Total 143293 243063 386356 37.1 52226

1 January 2019

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Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto # auto added since 2 July
Algae 1014 852 1866 54.3 48
Amphibians and Reptiles 12757 2338 15095 84.5 715
Animals 2657 3645 6302 42.2 658
Arthropods 1547 6142 7689 20.1 227
Beetles 12121 22878 34999 34.6 523
Birds 11481 2306 13787 83.3 2133
Bivalves 197 1154 1351 14.6 8
Cephalopods 1017 1414 2431 41.8 147
Dinosaurs 1337 136 1473 90.8 61
Fishes 13274 7915 21189 62.6 1546
Fungi 1400 10775 12175 11.5 923
Gastropods 10015 21906 31921 31.4 2126
Insects 23165 43010 66175 35.0 1667
Lepidoptera 26498 71691 98189 27.0 1635
Mammals 4067 3296 7363 55.2 1120
Marine life 2428 2888 5316 45.7 674
Microbiology 736 9534 10270 7.2 506
Palaeontology 7876 6453 14329 55.0 831
Plants 36060 26536 62596 57.6 8574
Primates 812 83 895 90.7 144
Rodents 2893 179 3072 94.2 1023
Sharks 705 43 748 94.3 3
Spiders 6370 2185 8555 74.5 142
Tree of Life 51 178 229 22.3 ?
Turtles 601 56 657 91.5 88
Viruses 276 1224 1500 18.4 276
Total 165819 226196 392015 42.3 22526

Mammal subprojects with articles tagged for both mammals and subproject:

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto
Bats 630 781 1411 44.6
Cetaceans 384 8 392 98.0
Cats 186 25 211 88.2
Dogs 203 38 241 84.2
Equine 85 28 113 75.2

26 June 2019

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Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto # auto added since 1 January
Algae 1162 750 1912 60.8 148
Amphibians and Reptiles 14036 2178 16214 86.6 1279
Animals 3366 3563 6929 48.6 709
Arthropods 1704 6394 8098 21.0 157
Beetles 12452 22789 35241 35.3 331
Birds 13658 168 13826 98.8 2177
Bivalves 1309 69 1378 95.0 1112
Cephalopods 1304 1147 2451 53.2 287
Dinosaurs 1372 127 1499 91.5 35
Fishes 14427 7256 21683 66.5 1153
Fungi 1499 10769 12268 12.2 99
Gastropods 11777 20938 32715 36.0 1762
Insects 24216 42515 66731 36.3 1051
Lepidoptera 27685 70305 97990 28.3 1187
Mammals 6209 1228 7437 83.5 2142
Marine life 3181 2815 5996 53.1 753
Microbiology 1403 9799 11202 12.5 667
Palaeontology 9030 5837 14867 60.7 1154
Plants 41312 22217 63529 65.0 5252
Primates 908 3 911 99.7 96
Rodents 2937 120 3057 96.1 44
Sharks 730 36 766 95.3 25
Spiders 6888 1709 8597 80.1 518
Tree of Life 98 62 160 61.2 47
Turtles 624 37 661 94.4 23
Viruses 610 919 1529 39.9 334
Total 185055 211757 396812 46.6 19236

Mammal subprojects with articles tagged for both mammals and subproject:

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto
Bats 1460 8 1468 99.5
Cats 223 14 237 94.1
Cetaceans 410 0 410 100.0
Dogs 256 8 264 97.0
Equine 114 0 114 100.0

1 January 2020

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Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto # auto added since 26 June 2018
Algae 1290 640 1930 66.8 128
Amphibians and Reptiles 15958 631 16589 96.2 1922
Animals 3742 3402 7144 52.4 376
Arthropods 1875 6363 8238 22.8 171
Beetles 12813 22581 35394 36.2 361
Birds 13717 156 13873 98.9 59
Bivalves 1319 66 1385 95.2 10
Cephalopods 1306 1146 2452 53.3 2
Dinosaurs 1393 116 1509 92.3 21
Diptera 5050 5893 10943 46.1 NA
Fishes 15474 6506 21980 70.4 1047
Fungi 1644 10688 12332 13.3 145
Gastropods 12387 20577 32964 37.6 610
Insects 25844 42295 68139 37.9 1628
Lepidoptera 28967 69104 98071 29.5 1282
Mammals 6821 688 7509 90.8 612
Marine life 3591 2628 6219 57.7 410
Microbiology 1441 9893 11334 12.7 38
Palaeontology 9586 5622 15208 63.0 556
Plants 47757 16481 64238 74.3 6445
Primates 913 1 914 99.9 5
Rodents 2980 92 3072 97.0 43
Sharks 732 36 768 95.3 2
Spiders 7186 1481 8667 82.9 298
Tree of Life 102 60 162 63.0 4
Turtles 651 0 651 100.0 27
Viruses 768 851 1619 47.4 158
Total 200835 200629 401464 50.0 15780

Mammal subprojects with articles tagged for both mammals and subproject:

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto
Bats 1484 3 1487 99.8
Cats 214 13 227 94.3
Cetaceans 411 0 411 100.0
Dogs 244 9 253 96.4
Equine 101 0 101 100.0

1 July 2020

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Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto # auto added since 1 January 2020
Algae 1411 540 1951 72.3 121
Amphibians and Reptiles 17315 350 17665 98.0 1357
Animals 3981 3414 7395 53.8 239
Arthropods 4639 6217 10856 42.7 2764
Beetles 13641 22068 35709 38.2 828
Birds 13728 149 13877 98.9 11
Bivalves 1330 67 1397 95.2 11
Cephalopods 1327 1132 2459 54.0 21
Dinosaurs 1429 89 1518 94.1 36
Diptera 5966 5735 11701 51.0 916
Fishes 16330 5804 22134 73.8 856
Fungi 2861 9586 12447 23.0 1217
Gastropods 13267 19789 33056 40.1 880
Insects 28499 40872 69371 41.1 2655
Lepidoptera 33030 64722 97752 33.8 4063
Mammals 6770 647 7417 91.3 -51
Marine life 3816 2556 6382 59.8 225
Microbiology 1809 9407 11216 16.1 368
Palaeontology 10068 5428 15496 64.8 482
Plants 53101 12452 65553 81.0 5344
Primates 928 2 930 99.8 15
Rodents 2978 93 3071 97.0 -2
Sharks 736 37 773 95.2 4
Spiders 7353 1402 8755 84.0 167
Tree of Life 121 58 179 67.6 19
Turtles 678 1 679 99.9 27
Viruses 1477 189 1666 88.7 709
Total 221946 186512 408458 54.3 21111

Mammal subprojects with articles tagged for both mammals and subproject:

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto
Bats 1531 4 1535 99.7
Cats 228 0 228 100
Cetaceans 411 0 411 100
Dogs 254 1 255 99.6
Equine 102 0 102 100

6 January 2021 update

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Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto # auto added since 1 July 2020
Algae 1445 537 1982 72.9 34
Amphibians and Reptiles 17679 349 18028 98.1 364
Animals 4400 3347 7747 56.8 419
Arthropods 5044 5928 10972 46.0 405
Beetles 15244 20595 35839 42.5 1603
Birds 13868 128 13996 99.1 140
Bivalves 1343 65 1408 95.4 13
Cephalopods 1344 1127 2471 54.4 17
Dinosaurs 1452 89 1541 94.2 23
Diptera 6197 5614 11811 52.5 231
Fishes 17122 5218 22340 76.6 792
Fungi 3270 9256 12526 26.1 409
Gastropods 14466 18682 33148 43.6 1199
Insects 31182 38734 69916 44.6 2683
Lepidoptera 35641 61923 97564 36.5 2611
Mammals 7010 618 7628 91.9 240
Marine life 4155 2472 6627 62.7 339
Microbiology 2000 9348 11348 17.6 191
Palaeontology 10490 5439 15929 65.9 422
Plants 56562 12094 68656 82.4 3461
Primates 933 3 936 99.7 5
Rodents 2993 80 3073 97.4 15
Sharks 764 64 828 92.3 28
Spiders 8757 78 8835 99.1 1404
Tree of Life 129 58 187 69.0 8
Turtles 685 17 702 97.6 7
Viruses 1528 152 1680 90.9 51
Total 269429 176785 446214 60.4 47483

Mammal subprojects with articles tagged for both mammals and subproject:

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto
Bats 1537 5 1542 99.7
Cats 215 0 215 100
Cetaceans 417 2 419 99.5
Dogs 248 1 249 99.6
Equine 104 0 104 100

30 June 2021

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30 June 2021 update

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percent auto # auto added since 6 January 2021 # manual subtracted
Algae 1732 538 2270 76.3 287 -1
Amphibians and Reptiles 18838 321 19159 98.3 1159 28
Animals 6195 3061 9256 66.9 1795 286
Arthropods 6809 4925 11734 58.0 1765 1003
Beetles 16443 19930 36373 45.2 1199 665
Birds 13909 122 14031 99.1 41 6
Bivalves 1437 65 1502 95.7 94 0
Cephalopods 1386 1107 2493 55.6 42 20
Dinosaurs 1534 21 1555 98.6 82 61
Diptera 8839 4816 13655 64.7 2642 798
Fishes 19044 3724 22768 83.6 1922 1494
Fungi 5752 7452 13204 43.6 2482 1804
Gastropods 17171 16258 33429 51.4 2705 2424
Insects 37915 35311 73226 51.8 6733 3423
Lepidoptera 39072 58742 97544 40.1 3431 3181
Mammals 7128 534 7662 93.0 118 84
Marine life 5138 2038 7176 71.6 983 434
Microbiology 2103 9920 12023 17.5 103 -572
Palaeontology 11115 5058 16173 68.7 625 381
Plants 63969 8421 72390 88.4 7407 3673
Primates 935 3 938 99.7 2 0
Rodents 2999 76 3075 97.5 6 4
Sharks 773 60 833 92.8 9 4
Spiders 9130 0 9130 100.0 373 78
Tree of Life 129 59 188 68.6 0 -1
Turtles 710 5 715 99.3 25 12
Viruses 1594 140 1734 91.9 66 12
Total 268553 159352 427905 62.8 -876 17433

Mammal subprojects with articles tagged for both mammals and subproject:

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto
Bats 1540 5 1545 99.7
Cats 206 0 206 100.0
Cetaceans 419 2 421 99.5
Dogs 237 3 240 98.8
Equine 104 0 140 100.0

30 December 2021

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30 December 2021 update

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto # auto added since 30 June 2021 # manual subtracted
Algae 1796 509 2305 77.9 64 29
Amphibians and Reptiles 19494 296 19790 98.5 656 25
Animals 8597 2554 11151 77.1 2402 507
Arthropods 7881 4276 12157 64.8 1072 649
Beetles 19066 18564 37630 50.7 2623 1366
Birds 14083 96 14179 99.3 174 26
Bivalves 1581 36 1617 97.8 144 29
Cephalopods 1522 980 2502 60.8 136 127
Dinosaurs 1582 9 1591 99.4 48 12
Diptera 10734 3963 14697 73.0 1895 853
Fishes 20156 3121 23277 86.6 1112 603
Fungi 6829 6662 13491 50.6 1077 790
Gastropods 18567 15327 33894 54.8 1396 931
Insects 44371 31653 76024 58.4 6456 3658
Lepidoptera 46518 51501 98019 47.5 7446 7241
Mammals 7583 330 7913 95.8 455 204
Marine life 6971 1802 8773 79.5 1833 236
Microbiology 3127 9016 12143 25.8 1024 904
Palaeontology 12055 4553 16608 72.6 940 505
Plants 68380 5922 74302 92.0 4411 2499
Primates 973 0 973 100.0 38 3
Rodents 3056 34 3090 98.9 57 42
Sharks 789 49 838 94.2 16 11
Spiders 9257 0 9257 100.0 127 0
Tree of Life 74 11 85 87.1 -55 48
Turtles 726 0 726 100.0 16 5
Viruses 1690 56 1746 96.8 96 84
Total 295889 140605 436494 67.8 27336 18747

Mammal subprojects with articles tagged for both mammals and subproject:

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto
Bats 1563 0 1563 100.0
Cats 205 2 207 99.0
Cetaceans 426 0 426 100.0
Dogs 241 0 241 100.0
Equine 105 0 105 100.0

30 June 2022

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30 June 2022 update

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto # auto added since 30 December 2021 # manual subtracted
Algae 2039 285 2324 87.7 243 224
Amphibians and Reptiles 20407 234 20641 98.9 913 62
Animals 9041 2337 11378 79.5 444 217
Arthropods 8252 4097 12349 66.8 371 179
Beetles 19965 18059 38024 52.5 899 505
Birds 14141 89 14230 99.4 58 7
Bivalves 1621 35 1656 97.9 40 1
Cephalopods 1840 682 2522 73.0 318 298
Dinosaurs 1599 5 1604 99.7 17 4
Diptera 11368 3553 14921 76.2 634 430
Fishes 21434 2834 24268 88.3 1278 287
Fungi 7973 6201 14174 56.3 1144 461
Gastropods 20067 13888 33955 59.1 1500 1439
Insects 46541 29968 76509 60.8 2170 1685
Lepidoptera 57636 40705 98341 58.6 11118 10796
Mammals 7950 192 8142 97.6 367 138
Marine life 7279 1648 8927 81.5 308 154
Microbiology 4848 7878 12726 38.1 1721 1138
Palaeontology 13232 3960 17192 77.0 1177 593
Plants 73493 2997 76490 96.1 5113 2925
Primates 974 0 974 100.0 1 0
Rodents 3063 31 3094 99.0 7 3
Sharks 792 48 840 94.3 3 1
Spiders 9426 0 9426 100.0 169 0
Tree of Life 80 9 89 89.9 6 2
Turtles 744 1 745 99.9 18 -1
Viruses 1705 56 1761 96.8 15 0
Total 324943 120940 445883 72.9 29054 19665

Mammal subprojects with articles tagged for both mammals and subproject:

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto
Bats 1573 0 1573 100.0
Cats 187 0 187 100.0
Cetaceans 427 0 427 100.0
Dogs 241 0 241 100.0
Equine 106 0 106 100.0

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30 December 2022 update

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto # auto added since 30 June 2022 # manual subtracted
Algae 2077 283 2360 88.0 38 2
Amphibians and Reptiles 20981 231 21212 98.9 574 3
Animals 9688 2244 11932 81.2 647 93
Arthropods 9049 3613 12662 71.5 797 484
Beetles 20549 17502 38051 54.0 584 557
Birds 14195 84 14279 99.4 54 5
Bivalves 1644 33 1677 98.0 23 2
Cephalopods 1969 570 2539 77.6 129 112
Dinosaurs 1618 4 1622 99.8 19 1
Diptera 12673 2827 15500 81.8 1305 726
Fishes 22118 2668 24786 89.2 684 166
Fungi 8953 5797 14750 60.7 980 404
Gastropods 22676 11353 34029 66.6 2609 2535
Insects 49427 27994 77421 63.8 2886 1974
Lepidoptera 66328 32052 98380 67.4 8692 8653
Mammals 8051 184 8235 97.8 101 8
Marine life 7584 1468 9052 83.8 305 180
Microbiology 5760 7127 12887 44.7 912 751
Palaeontology 13703 3796 17499 78.3 471 164
Plants 75891 1970 77861 97.5 2398 1027
Primates 981 0 981 100 7 0
Protista 103 21 124 83.1 NA NA
Rodents 3062 30 3092 99.0 -1 1
Sharks 804 50 854 94.1 12 -2
Spiders 9475 0 9475 100 49 0
Tree of Life 79 11 90 87.8 -1 -2
Turtles 747 2 749 99.7 3 -1
Viruses 1708 58 1766 96.7 3 -2
Total 345989 104689 450678 76.8 21046 16251

Mammal subprojects with articles tagged for both mammals and subproject:

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto
Bats 1576 0 1576 100
Cats 188 0 188 100
Cetaceans 428 0 428 100
Dogs 241 0 241 100
Equine 106 0

30 June 2023

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30 June 2023 update

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto # auto added since 30 December 2022 # manual subtracted
Algae 2105 278 2383 88.3 28 5
Amphibians and Reptiles 22170 219 22389 99.0 1189 12
Animals 10084 2058 12142 83.1 396 186
Arthropods 9908 3424 13332 74.3 859 189
Beetles 22341 15703 38044 58.7 1792 1799
Birds 14291 81 14372 99.4 96 3
Bivalves 1660 34 1694 98.0 16 -1
Cephalopods 1999 568 2567 77.9 30 2
Dinosaurs 1632 1 1633 99.9 14 3
Diptera 13385 2642 16027 83.5 712 185
Fishes 23998 1862 25860 92.8 1880 806
Fungi 9643 5684 15327 62.9 690 113
Gastropods 24442 9750 34192 71.5 1766 1603
Insects 52855 25318 78173 67.6 3428 2676
Lepidoptera 69755 28593 98348 70.9 3427 3459
Mammals 8206 153 8359 98.2 155 31
Marine life 7944 1320 9264 85.8 360 148
Microbiology 6244 6693 12937 48.3 484 434
Palaeontology 14090 3736 17826 79.0 387 60
Plants 78452 964 79416 98.8 2561 1006
Primates 980 0 980 100 -1 0
Protista 170 25 195 87.2 67 -4
Rodents 3120 29 3149 99.1 58 1
Sharks 818 49 867 94.3 14 1
Spiders 9698 0 9698 100 223 0
Tree of Life 82 11 93 88.2 3 0
Turtles 754 1 755 99.9 7 1
Viruses 1714 56 1770 96.8 6 2
Total 364568 93154 457722 79.6 18579 11535

Mammal subprojects with articles tagged for both mammals and subproject:

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto
Bats 1597 0 1597 100
Cats 180 0 180 100
Cetaceans 433 0 433 100
Dogs 243 0 243 100
Equine 107 0 107 100

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30 December update

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto # auto added since 30 June 2023 # manual subtracted
Algae 2163 227 2390 90.5 58 51
Amphibians and Reptiles 22524 206 22730 99.1 354 13
Animals 11167 1158 12325 90.6 1083 900
Arthropods 10774 3067 13841 77.8 866 357
Beetles 24731 13421 38152 64.8 2390 2282
Birds 14358 62 14420 99.6 67 19
Bivalves 1674 32 1706 98.1 14 2
Cephalopods 2009 566 2575 78.0 10 2
Dinosaurs 1643 0 1643 100 11 1
Diptera 14160 2165 16325 86.7 775 477
Fishes 24408 1671 26079 93.6 410 191
Fungi 10655 5171 15826 67.3 1012 513
Gastropods 27510 7224 34734 79.2 3068 2526
Insects 57978 20719 78697 73.7 5123 4599
Lepidoptera 74631 23766 98397 75.8 4876 4827
Mammals 8301 144 8445 98.3 95 9
Marine life 8723 672 9395 92.8 779 648
Microbiology 6971 6030 13001 53.6 727 663
Palaeontology 14779 3474 18253 81.0 689 262
Plants 79920 611 80531 99.2 1468 353
Primates 979 0 979 100 -1 0
Protista 380 80 460 82.6 210 -55
Rodents 3137 28 3165 99.1 17 1
Sharks 829 45 874 94.9 11 4
Spiders 10040 0 10040 100 342 0
Tree of Life 89 6 95 93.7 7 5
Turtles 759 0 759 100 5 1
Viruses 1722 55 1777 96.9 8 1
Total 383888 76708 460596 83.3 19320 16446

Mammal subprojects with articles tagged for both mammals and subproject:

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto
Bats
Cats 186 0 186 100
Cetaceans 439 0 439 100
Dogs 241 0 241 100
Equine 109 0 109 100

30 June 2024

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30 June update

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto # auto added since <previous date> # manual subtracted
Algae 2280 160 2440 93.4 117 67
Amphibians and Reptiles 22711 199 22910 99.1 187 7
Animals 11596 915 12511 92.7 429 243
Arthropods 11355 2719 14074 80.7 581 348
Beetles 26514 11994 38508 68.9 1783 1427
Birds 14405 48 14453 99.7 47 14
Bivalves 1696 28 1724 98.4 22 4
Cephalopods 2020 558 2578 78.4 11 8
Dinosaurs 1624 0 1624 100 -19 0
Diptera 15081 1565 16646 90.6 921 600
Extinction 796 31 827 96.3 NA NA
Fishes 25302 960 26262 96.3 894 711
Fungi 12194 3932 16126 75.6 1539 1239
Gastropods 32419 2972 35391 91.6 4909 4252
Insects 61302 18450 79752 76.9 3324 2269
Lepidoptera 83659 14801 98460 85.0 9028 8965
Mammals 8401 124 8525 98.5 100 20
Marine life 8990 527 9517 94.4 267 145
Microbiology 7675 5393 13068 58.7 704 637
Palaeontology 15506 3198 18704 82.9 727 276
Plants 81558 188 81746 99.8 1638 423
Primates 983 0 983 100 4 0
Protista 778 150 928 83.8 398 -70
Rodents 3161 25 3186 99.2 24 3
Sharks 833 38 871 95.6 4 7
Spiders 10110 0 10110 100 70 0
Tree of Life 100 0 100 100 11 6
Turtles 760 0 760 100 1 0
Viruses 1736 55 1791 96.9 14 0
Total 407991 57001 464992 87.7 24103 19707

Mammal subprojects with articles tagged for both mammals and subproject:

Project Auto Manual Total taxa Percentage auto
Cats 185 0 185 100
Cetaceans 445 0 445 100
Dogs 241 0 241 100
Equine 109 0 109 100

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Talk:Fawn-coloured lark Talk:Common gull Talk:Australian wood duck Talk:American purple gallinule Talk:Common raven Talk:Gray-lined hawk Talk:Gray thrasher Talk:Slate-coloured grosbeak Talk:Tricoloured munia Talk:Dull-coloured grassquit Talk:Slate-coloured seedeater Talk:Mouse-coloured tapaculo Talk:Gray-throated warbling finch Talk:Multicoloured tanager Talk:Gray-barred wren Talk:Mouse-coloured penduline tit Talk:Grayish baywing Talk:Sand-coloured nighthawk Talk:Gray-headed kite Talk:Blue-gray tanager Talk:Gray kingbird Talk:American gray flycatcher Talk:Gray catbird Talk:Gray-crowned rosy finch Talk:Blue-gray gnatcatcher Talk:Black-throated gray warbler Talk:Gray vireo Talk:Gray hawk Talk:Osprey Talk:Kererū Talk:Northern New Zealand dotterel Talk:New Zealand dotterel

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Incorporate with User:Plantdrew/Essay Equating the avian sense of "cardinal" with Cardinalidae appears to be a Wikipedia innovation.


To head off WP:COMMONNAME immediately: "the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources)" for the subject of this article is Cardinalidae. The WP:OFFICIAL English name that isn't the scientific name is Cardinals, Grosbeaks and allies


  • There's never been an encyclopedia the size of Wikipedia, and I'm not sure that it can really be considered to be written overall for the "general public" at this point. While there are many general interest articles, there are even more articles that are of interest to some particular niche audience. Sports fans read articles on professional athletes; if an athlete article mentions a notable achievement, it's not going to give the full rules of the sport that provide full context to that achievement. If a article on an episode of a TV series mentions an event relevant to an ongoing plot point, it's not going to give a full discussion of how that plot point has developed over all previous episodes. While that doesn't mean we should embrace jargon, I do think we can assume that for most niche topics, the likely audience already has some background in the broader topic. The majority of our organism articles are only going to be of interest to a small subset of people, who will be familiar with the concept of scientific names, and not necessarily intimidated by them.

WP:COMMONNAME was written at a time before it was clear that Wikipedia was going to be the 5th most popular website in the world, and before search engines were quite as a good as they are today. In the early days, we couldn't be sure that people searching for "Bill Clinton" would necessarily find a Wikipedia article titled William Jefferson Clinton. In order to make sure people found that article we put it at the COMMONNAME ("Bill Clinton" is clearly the most likely search term). "Common name" happens to be a term of art in taxonomy; some taxonomically interested Wikipedians back in the early days interpretated COMMONNAME to mean "avoid scientific names" at all costs. This has lead to some long-standing titles where scientific names are avoided, but it was never considered whether the title used actually helped readers find the subject they were interested. People looking for a bird called a cardinal are almost certainly looking for northern cardinal, an iconic and common species in eastern North America, but cardinal (bird) is about a family of some 50 species, only 3 of which are known as "cardinals"; but at least the awful scientific name Cardinalidae was avoided. Pig was first created as an article about domestic pigs but early in it's history was changed to cover the genus Sus; scientific name avoided, but do people searching for "pig" really want to read about the genus (and if they're interested in a larger group of animals than domestic pigs, who are we to assume they aren't also interested in javelinas which are in the same suborder, but a different family)? Turkey (bird) is about the genus Meleagris. Every year it sees a massive spike in page views during the American Thanksgiving holiday and a smaller spike for Christmas.

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  1. Mandragora (genus): Mandragora is a dab page
  2. Cassia (genus): Cassia
  3. Musa (genus): Musa
  4. Lotus (genus): Lotus
  5. Asparagus (genus): Asparagus
  6. Aster (genus): Aster
  7. Gloxinia (genus): Gloxinia
  8. Sequoia (genus): Sequoia
  9. Stevia (genus): Stevia
  10. Vanilla (genus): Vanilla
  11. Citronella (genus): Citronella
  12. Opopanax (genus): Opopanax
  13. Cotyledon (genus): Cotyledon is an article about plant anatomy, and a clear primary topic
  14. Crypsis (genus): Crypsis is a biology topic and mentions plants
  15. Jarilla (genus): Jarilla is a dab page
  16. Phyla (genus): Phyla is a dab page mentioning another biology sense; the plural of phylum. Traditional botanical equivalent of phylum is division (botany), which redirects to phylum. Division (horticulture) another plant related meaning. "Phylum (plant)"/"Phyla (plant)" not really likely search terms for the taxonomic rank between kingdom and class.
  17. Pimenta (genus): Pimenta
  18. Pleomele (genus): Pleomele

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  • Keep, Oppose redirecting The CONTENTFORK is the result of the nominator copying content from species/genus articles into the tribe article shortly before they opened this AfD proposing to redirect the species/genus article they had copied from. Using AfD to arrive at a consensus for which CONTENTFORKed title should be preserved when the nominating editor DISCOVERS a content fork is appropriate. Using AfD to ratify a resolution to a content fork the nominating editor CREATES is not appropriate. There is a WP:TRAINWRECK; Knulliana had more significantly more information when the AfD was initiated than any other nominated article. I think it could stand alone as a stub (not a sub-stub) in it's state at the time of the AfD nomination. It has since been expanded, along with other articles nominated in this AfD. The genus article Knulliana gets more page views than the tribe article Bothriospilini (12/day long term vs. 1/day) Tribes are taxonomic minutiae; they are rarely mentioned in sources with SIGCOV of a species. Families are regularly mentioned. Genera are inherently mentioned as the first word in the binomial name of a species. Readers might reasonably expect to find Wikipedias most detailed coverage of a species in a genus article. As a test case, this AfD seems to seek to set a precedent that Wikipedias most detailed coverage of a species could be found whereever it "fits" (by article size). Species might be covered in detail in an article for genus/tribe/subfamily/family. This isn't an outcome that would b help readers at all. I'm much less opposed to merging species sub-stubs to genus articles than I

Some thoughts in no particular order. The reason taxon articles don't get deleted isn't because of WP:SPECIESOUTCOMES. It is because there is always an alternative to deletion; an article can be redirected to an accepted name if it is a synonym, or redirected to a higher taxon if it is decided that a stand-alone article is unwarranted. However, in practice, deciding that a stand-alone article is unwarranted and redirecting to a higher taxon has not been an outcome of any recent AfD. The idea that Wikipedia should have stand-alone articles for taxa to the extent that it currently does (and should continue to add more articles until all (extant) taxa have stand-alone articles) has been challenged. But the challengers don't seem to be aware

What would make a taxon non-notable? I'm not sure. I know what makes a taxon article go unread (editors start as readers, and unread articles don't get expanded). Articles about taxa that are uncommon, small, difficult to identify and which don't occur in English-speaking countries don't get read.

What taxa shouldn't have articles? There's already agreement not to have stand-alone articles for fossil species and monotypic taxa. I would add in articles that present one of the two possible cladistic topologies between three clades (i.e., don't name every node on a cladogram). Antennopoda and Tactopoda (as well as Lobopodia if it isn't treated as paraphyletic) representing competing topologies/hypothesized relationships between three clades. I'm not aware of any other examples like this but there may be a few.


Botanists do include years in the types of publications I think you're referring to (revisions, monographs, etc.) and do order synonyms chronologically in those publications. Lists of synonyms in Wikipedia articles on plants don't typically include years (and are generally sourced from databases that arrange synonyms alphabetically, and which may not include years (or any publication details) in the view of the synonyms of a particular accepted species (the database may have year/publication details if you click through to the record for a particular synonym). Sorting lists of plant synonyms chronologically would entail significant effort in adding years to the lists before the list could even be re-sorted. For animals, the years would already be present as part of the standard zoological authority citation.


I searched for taxonomic revisions of a plant and animal genus (chosen more or less at random). Here's how a synonym is presented in a plant revision (it was in a chronologically ordered list):
"Casearia celtidifolia Kunth, Nov. Gen. Sp. [H.B.K.] (quarto ed.) 5: 363. 1821. TYPE: Venezuela. Terr. Fed. Amazonas: ‘‘prope Angostura et Carichana, ad ripam fluminis Orinoco,’’ Humboldt & Bonpland 1047 (holotype, P not seen; isotypes, B , F neg. 13663 of B)"


And here is a synonym from the animal revision:
"Andrena subsquamularis Noskiewicz 1960: 85–89 (female). Type location: Bulgaria ("Sandansky"). Type depository: Universität von Wrocław, Poland"


The animal has the year immediately following the authority, followed by a page number (without the title of the publication). The plant has the publication immediately following the authority, followed by a page number and then the year. The format for the plant is typical for botanical publications; when the ICNafp itself cites a publication the order is: publication title, page number, year. From a quick glance through the zoological code, I'm not seeing any publication titles at all aside from the two in Article 3.


I'm getting off topic, but the basic point is that since the codes differ in whether the year is generally included in the author citation, there are differences in how the year is presented in the (botanical) contexts where it is necessary to present it. And that makes it more difficult to copy-paste a list of botanical synonyms with years (and then arrange it chronologically if it wasn't already).


But do start a thread on WT:TOL. Plantdrew (talk)

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Wikipedia's system of categories kind of sucks. It doesn't necessarily work very well for what editors want it to do. Intersectional categories (categories covering two or more characteristics) are particularly problematic. With intersectional categories, Wikipedia editors are making decisions about what characteristics to include in the categorization, which may not be the characteristics of interest to readers (or to other editors). E.g. there is Category:20th-century American male actors, Category:American male television actors and Category:American male film actors. Somebody might be interested only in 20th-century film actors, but they won't find a category for them. It would be better if we had something like a system of tag (metadata), where users can select the tags that define the group of interest to them (e.g. 20th-century+film actors+Americans+males). But we don't have that. However, Wikidata has properties that can be searched on and in that way function similarly to tags. Wikipedia articles/Wikidata items do not necessarily have all the categories/properties that are relevant present, and even if they did there are going to be some edge cases that fall through the gaps (I don't think Wikidata has a property for "20th-century people"; while it does have birth/death dates and occupations, most actors born in 1992 were not active in as actors in the 20th-century, but a few were).

Theoretically with Petscan, Wikipedia users can search for any intersection of categories they care to. That could be 20th-century film actors, or it could be Cercozoa genera. I saw theoretically, because again, this depends on articles having the relevant categories which they might not. Category:Cercozoa genera is unnecessary if Category:Rhizaria genera and Category:Cercozoa are populated with all relevant articles; Petscan will find the article from the intersection of Cercozoa+Rhizaria genera. But Category:Rhizaria genera isn't necessary either; we could just have Category:Genera (essentially dumping all intersectional categories for taxon ranks and treating categories more like metadata tags).

However, even with a well thought out system of categories, you can't be sure that other editors won't create new subcategories that might pollute your Petscan results with unexpected articles. You certainly can't guarantee that categories won't end up being created for groups with less than 2000 species. You can't guarantee that newly created articles will be placed in the appropriate categories (I have seen new article on fungus species that lack Category:Fungus species; I add the category when I notice it is missing, but I'm not sure I always notice it's absence, nor am I sure if anybody else (Esculenta?) is checking for fungus species articles that lack the category).

  1. "[Taxon] taxa" has subcategories for e.g. species, genera, families, orders. What else goes in "[Taxon] taxa"? OK, unranked clades. Also infraorders, superfamilies, subgenera? Or do you also create subcategories for each minor rank? Category:Plant unranked clades exists; some of the clades are within families, some are above order rank, at least one is above phylum/division rank.
  1. "Creation of "[Taxon] species" categories". Wikipedia hasn't really had

Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants/Categorization

Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_February_6#Category:Bromeliaceae_species


Reply to NSPECIES proposal

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Some comments pertaining to the FAQ section:

  • SARS-CoV-2 is not a species. It is certainly the most prominent recent example of a biological entity that was notable before receiving any kind of formal name (but the ICTV doesn't regulate names below species rank, so it's not a formal name of the sort covered by this proposal). Areas where we might find species that are notable prior to be named are: newly emerging pathogens (Middle East respiratory syndrome–related coronavirus is a species), fossil hominids (Denisovan although not clear whether they should be considered a species or subspecies), truly exceptional non-hominid fossils (the Suncor nodosaur had an article before being named as a taxon, but maybe the notability there is really for the fossil itself and not it's status or non-status as a species), and maybe some fish and invertebrates that are commercially available in the aquarium trade (the color morph Caridina cf. cantonensis var. blue tiger had an article two years before the species it is now known to belong to was named). The MERS virus might be the best example of a species that was notable prior to being named.
  • 2 million species. Is that intended to be the number that don't have articles yet? Stats on GBIF for the Catalogue of Life dataset estimate 2.3 million extant species recognized by taxonomists (I don't know of any estimates for the number of fossil species recognized by taxonomists). According to the GBIF stats, COL includes 2.581 million accepted names and 2.542 million synonyms; I believe these number includes names at higher ranks, not just species. I saw elsewhere that WAID had estimated 300k articles for species. For a more precise estimate, I'd go with 323,872 articles using {{Speciesbox}} plus 32,988 articles using {{Taxobox}} with |binomial=.
  • 25k prokaryotes includes synonyms. 20,413 is the number of prokaryote species excluding synonyms.

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